Santorum Hypocrisy Writ Large: Church Paedophilia a 'Basic Homosexual Relationship'

And it was that, disingenuous, dripping with hypocrisy, statement that caught my eye. And before you ask, the answer is no, I'm not getting a fixation with Icky Ricky Santorum. It was due to me following a visitor path back to its source that I ended up at Ricky's 2003 man on dog interview.

SANTORUM: In this case, what we're talking about, basically, is priests who were having sexual relations with post-pubescent men. We're not talking about priests with 3-year-olds, or 5-year-olds. We're talking about a basic homosexual relationship.

So there you have it, straight from the (Catholic) horse's mouth. There is no Paedophilia in the Catholic church, only basic homosexual relationships.

A statement I find quite hard to reconcile, with an institution that is synonymous with child abuse and boy buggery.

But there's nothing unequivocal about Ricky's views on the right to privacy. The idea is that the state doesn't have rights to limit individuals' wants and passions. Whoa boy! the rights to limit individuals' wants and passions Now we are really getting into murky waters. And if any few words epitomise our Ricky, it has to be those.

I think Ricky has some very serious issues, don't you?

SANTORUM: And that's sort of where we are in today's world, unfortunately. The idea is that the state doesn't have rights to limit individuals' wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire. And we're seeing it in our society.

For 'AP' in the interview, read, Lara Jakes Jordan. Of her, more below.

Excerpt from Santorum interview
4/23/2003

An unedited section of the Associated Press interview, taped April 7, with Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa. Words that couldn't be heard clearly on the tape are marked (unintelligible).

AP: If you're saying that liberalism is taking power away from the families, how is conservatism giving more power to the families?

SANTORUM: Putting more money in their pocketbook is one. The more money you take away from families is the less power that family has. And that's a basic power. The average American family in the 1950s paid (unintelligible)% in federal taxes. An average American family now pays about 25%.

The argument is, yes, we need to help other people. But one of the things we tried to do with welfare, and we're trying to do with other programs is, we're setting levels of expectation and responsibility, which the left never wanted to do. They don't want to judge. They say, Oh, you can't judge people. They should be able to do what they want to do. Well, not if you're taking my money and giving it to them. But it's this whole idea of moral equivalency. (unintelligible) My feeling is, well, if it's my money, I have a right to judge.

AP: Speaking of liberalism, there was a story in The Washington Post about six months ago, they'd pulled something off the Web, some article that you wrote blaming, according to The Washington Post, blaming in part the Catholic Church scandal on liberalism. Can you explain that?

SANTORUM: You have the problem within the church. Again, it goes back to this moral relativism, which is very accepting of a variety of different lifestyles. And if you make the case that if you can do whatever you want to do, as long as it's in the privacy of your own home, this "right to privacy," then why be surprised that people are doing things that are deviant within their own home? If you say, there is no deviant as long as it's private, as long as it's consensual, then don't be surprised what you get. You're going to get a lot of things that you're sending signals that as long as you do it privately and consensually, we don't really care what you do. And that leads to a culture that is not one that is nurturing and necessarily healthy. I would make the argument in areas where you have that as an accepted lifestyle, don't be surprised that you get more of it.

AP: The right to privacy lifestyle?

SANTORUM: The right to privacy lifestyle.

AP: What's the alternative?


SANTORUM: In this case, what we're talking about, basically, is priests who were having sexual relations with post-pubescent men. We're not talking about priests with 3-year-olds, or 5-year-olds. We're talking about a basic homosexual relationship. Which, again, according to the world view sense is a a perfectly fine relationship as long as it's consensual between people. If you view the world that way, and you say that's fine, you would assume that you would see more of it.

AP: Well, what would you do?

SANTORUM: What would I do with what?

AP: I mean, how would you remedy? What's the alternative?

SANTORUM: First off, I don't believe —

AP: I mean, should we outlaw homosexuality?

SANTORUM: I have no problem with homosexuality. I have a problem with homosexual acts. As I would with acts of other, what I would consider to be, acts outside of traditional heterosexual relationships. And that includes a variety of different acts, not just homosexual. I have nothing, absolutely nothing against anyone who's homosexual. If that's their orientation, then I accept that. And I have no problem with someone who has other orientations. The question is, do you act upon those orientations? So it's not the person, it's the person's actions. And you have to separate the person from their actions.

AP: OK, without being too gory or graphic, so if somebody is homosexual, you would argue that they should not have sex?

SANTORUM: We have laws in states, like the one at the Supreme Court right now, that has sodomy laws and they were there for a purpose. Because, again, I would argue, they undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family. And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution, this right that was created, it was created in Griswold — Griswold was the contraceptive case — and abortion. And now we're just extending it out. And the further you extend it out, the more you — this freedom actually intervenes and affects the family. You say, well, it's my individual freedom. Yes, but it destroys the basic unit of our society because it condones behavior that's antithetical to strong healthy families. Whether it's polygamy, whether it's adultery, where it's sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family.

Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that's what? Children. Monogamous relationships. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality —

AP: I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about "man on dog" with a United States senator, it's sort of freaking me out.

SANTORUM: And that's sort of where we are in today's world, unfortunately. The idea is that the state doesn't have rights to limit individuals' wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire. And we're seeing it in our society.

AP: Sorry, I just never expected to talk about that when I came over here to interview you. Would a President Santorum eliminate a right to privacy — you don't agree with it?

SANTORUM: I've been very clear about that. The right to privacy is a right that was created in a law that set forth a (ban on) rights to limit individual passions. And I don't agree with that. So I would make the argument that with President, or Senator or Congressman or whoever Santorum, I would put it back to where it is, the democratic process. If New York doesn't want sodomy laws, if the people of New York want abortion, fine. I mean, I wouldn't agree with it, but that's their right. But I don't agree with the Supreme Court coming in. usatoday

Related: Poor little Ricky, nasty old Lara Jakes Jordan. Santorum is Right, where else but World Net Daily. Complete with Christian vitriol.

And what could be more fitting for a Santorum post than, Every Sperm is Sacred. Almost custom made as it were, for little Ricky.

Save Our Sperm Org

I found this quite clever chart on my Ricky Santorum travels this morning.

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Rick Santorum's American Jihad
Linda Gibson
02/21/2012

Don't let the dorky sweater vest fool you. Beneath that benign-looking garment beats the heart of an extremist, a radical more akin to the Islamic fundamentalists of the Taliban and the ultra-orthodox Jews of Israel than to mainstream Americans. If Rick Santorum and his fundamentalist fans ran this country, we'd have a Bible-based theocracy thrust upon us, a dictatorship of the most divisive, judgmental and intolerant among us.

If you believe that contraception is immoral and any sex except conjugal attempts to procreate is sinful, he's your guy.

If you think "abortionists" (that inflammatory, demonizing term for doctors who perform a legal operation) ought to be punished, he's your guy.

If you think our Constitutional rights ought to be limited to conform with Biblical precepts, he's your guy.

Already, a state legislator in North Carolina (who said on taking office he'd pray for the Lord's guidance) has suggested public hangings for doctors who do abortions, lumping them in with such criminals as rapists and kidnappers.

Already, fundamentalists in state legislatures are trying to give legal personhood status to the unborn "from the moment of conception," however that would be determined. This would enable birth control, abortion and even in vitro fertilization to be criminalized.

Phyllis Schlafly of the Eagle Forum wants single mothers and parents of adopted children punished with higher taxes as a way to promote "traditional" families, which she defines as married heterosexual couples raising their own children.

All this far religious right wing activity is happening under Obama. Imagine the impetus of having a kindred spirit in the White House.

Fundamentalism worldwide us a political phenomenon and is inherently totalitarian. Its goal is to realign all aspects of a nation's society and government according to rigidly defined and strictly enforced religious principles. There's nothing democratic or broadly representative about it.

Rick Santorum has a right to his views and is entitled to run for President. Should he win, however, we'll see a holy war against the right to live without religious interference. buzzflash

Don't let the dorky sweater vest fool you. Beneath that benign-looking garment beats the heart of an extremist, a radical more akin to the Islamic fundamentalists of the Taliban and the ultra-orthodox Jews of Israel than to mainstream Americans. If Rick Santorum and his fundamentalist fans ran this country, we'd have a Bible-based theocracy thrust upon us, a dictatorship of the most divisive, judgmental and intolerant among us.

If you believe that contraception is immoral and any sex except conjugal attempts to procreate is sinful, he's your guy.

If you think "abortionists" (that inflammatory, demonizing term for doctors who perform a legal operation) ought to be punished, he's your guy.

If you think our Constitutional rights ought to be limited to conform with Biblical precepts, he's your guy.

Already, a state legislator in North Carolina (who said on taking office he'd pray for the Lord's guidance) has suggested public hangings for doctors who do abortions, lumping them in with such criminals as rapists and kidnappers.

Already, fundamentalists in state legislatures are trying to give legal personhood status to the unborn "from the moment of conception," however that would be determined. This would enable birth control, abortion and even in vitro fertilization to be criminalized.

Phyllis Schlafly of the Eagle Forum wants single mothers and parents of adopted children punished with higher taxes as a way to promote "traditional" families, which she defines as married heterosexual couples raising their own children.

All this far religious right wing activity is happening under Obama. Imagine the impetus of having a kindred spirit in the White House.

Fundamentalism worldwide us a political phenomenon and is inherently totalitarian. Its goal is to realign all aspects of a nation's society and government according to rigidly defined and strictly enforced religious principles. There's nothing democratic or broadly representative about it.

Rick Santorum has a right to his views and is entitled to run for President. Should he win, however, we'll see a holy war against the right to live without religious interference. buzzflash