Sunday, September 25, 2011

GOP Presidential Race: Rain Man Loosing To Magic Underpants Man

But before I bring you that story, I just want to say a few words about to Jon Huntsman.

Get yourself sat down, you ain't got a bleedin' snowball in hell's chance of winning the nomination. Not only are you another magic underpants man, you believe in climate change and evolution.

And that old son, if you didn't but know it, is the kiss of death to anybody's political aspirations in that emporium of ignorance, aka conservative America.

Gawdstruth, climate change and evolution, what a dreamer.

And it's not just meself that holds such opinions, here's another fellow that has a few words to say on the subject.

GOP Presidential Candidate Supports Evolution, Climate Change; Pisses Off His Party

Here is a recent tweet from Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, clearly a jab at Texas Governor and Jesus freak Rick Perry, who stepped into the ring on August 13th:

You: Wait. WTF? Rewind that shiz. Did you just say a Republican presidential candidate admits he believes in evolution and global warming? Aren't Republicans as a party...y'know, kind of antithetical to that sort of thing? Doesn't the GOP view science as a big liberal, atheist, bike-fascist conspiracy?

Me: Whoa, that's a lot of questions. Yeah, I did just say that. And yeah, many Republicans are no friends of these two repeatedly verified, never falsified scientific theories (not to be confused with untested scientific hypotheses). The story gets even weirder when you hear what Huntsman had to say on ABC's This Week about members of his own party:

"The minute that the Republican Party becomes the party - the anti-science party, we have a huge problem. We lose a whole lot of people who would otherwise allow us to win the election in 2012."

The world must be ending. I want to agree with a GOP presidential candidate. more

I can't give you the relative clip, because the two blokes that have been uploaded the clips, belong to the same school of miserated fuckdoggery, and have disabled the embedded.

I can't bring you that, but I can bring you some magic underpants.

Will Perry's Halting Debate Lead to a Faltering Campaign?
Saturday 24 September 2011
by: Steven Thomma,

Orlando, Fla. - Is Rick Perry about to lose his momentum toward the Republican presidential nomination?

The Texas governor turned in a weak performance in a debate Thursday, raising questions about how ready he is for the rigors of a tough campaign and how much Republicans really know about the man.

At the same time, chief rival Mitt Romney scored with a sharp performance. And others shined in the eyes of Republican voters as well, including Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. Combined, the results heading out of the debate in Orlando suggest a party far from ready to coalesce behind Perry.

"It was Mitt Romney's best performance so far and Rick Perry's worst performance so far," said Republican researcher Frank Luntz.

"Perry created some doubt about himself," said Susan MacManus, a political scientist at the University of South Florida who attended the debate and a three-day gathering of more than 3,000 conservative activists.

"This is a world of people used to good speakers with clear views," she said. "They worry now about his ability to stand beside President Obama in a debate."

At the gathering of conservatives Friday in the same convention center as the debate, it was all but impossible to find anyone who thought Perry did well Thursday night. The criticisms included his style — uniformly described as halting and unsure — and the substance, particularly his defense of in-state college tuition breaks for children of illegal immigrants not available to citizens from other states.

"Perry looked uncomfortable. He got caught up on a couple of the questions. He was inconsistent," said Meg Shannon, a retired lawyer from Palm Beach Gardens, Fla., who attended the debate.

"I was leaning toward Mitt, but I wanted to hear the candidates," she said. "Mitt did very well."

Harold Armstrong, a pastor from St. Cloud, Fla., who attended the debate and a Conservative Political Action Conference on Friday, also came away unimpressed by Perry.

"I did not think Perry did well. He seemed a little tentative," Armstrong said.

He said that Romney "came across looking presidential" and that his own favorite, Newt Gingrich, scored by offering what he thought were the best answers. "He gives thoughtful replies, not canned responses," Armstrong said.

Jean Morris, a retired teacher from St. Cloud, walked away still leaning toward Perry. But she, too, acknowledged that he didn't do very well.

On the question of in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, for example, she said he fumbled by failing to stress that it also requires those students promise to seek permanent resident status as a condition for the tuition break. "It disappointed me that he didn't mention that," she said.

Perry's performance underscored how fast he surged to the lead when he jumped into the race just six weeks ago, how untested he is, and how unscrutinized his record is beyond his boast of creating jobs.

Perry all but acknowledged his weakness as a debater during a speech Friday to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando.

"As conservatives," he said, "we know that values and vision matter. It's not who's the slickest candidate or the smoothest debater that we need to elect."

Despite his 10 years as governor, Perry had only faced rivals in a debate four times before he starting running for president. He's now debated three times on that stage.

Some analysts said he tires, and finishes poorly.

"He had a so-so performance," Republican political strategist Karl Rove said Friday on Fox News Channel. "He started off strong ... but as one observer put it, at about minute 42 he begins to fade."

Perry's also facing tough scrutiny over the less advertised parts of his record, such as the support for in-state tuition and opposition to a fence along the U.S.-Mexico border, both touchy subjects for conservatives.

William Gheen, president of the Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee, a North Carolina group, said that 81 percent of Americans oppose in-state tuition breaks for the children of illegal immigrants. "Rick Perry is finished," he said.

From the podium Thursday, Perry brushed aside anyone who opposes the tuition breaks as heartless. That set up Santorum to score by noting that conservatives don't want to deny the students access to college, as Perry suggested, just the prudential tuition denied to citizens from other states.

"Perry made a fundamental mistake when he said you have no heart. That was the moment when Perry people said, 'We can't take this, it's too much,'" said Luntz, who conducted a focus group for Fox News of Florida Republicans watching the debate.

Another stumble came when Perry was asked why he hasn't produced a detailed plan to create jobs, as other candidates have done. He said only that he'll produce one later.

"They thought he was ill prepared," Luntz said. "They think at this point you should have a plan. He was caught flatfooted."

Ultimately, Perry still has enormous strengths in the still-developing campaign for the 2012 Republican nomination. He has a record of job growth in his home state to brag about. He has a generally conservative record. And he's got a warm style of campaigning one on one matched by charisma.

What he doesn't have, as this week showed, is an ability to face rivals and win in televised debates, one key element of the coming campaign for the nomination and then against Barack Obama.

"He has a presence," said Luntz. "They see it. They feel it. But he needs to acquire the ability to articulate to go along with that presence." Truthout


Anonymous said...

(Rick Perry) "And he's got a warm style of campaigning one on one matched by charisma."

warm style and charisma?
Well, there's no accounting for taste and there is no cure for bad taste.

Himself said...

Just finished a lengthy post, do try to watch the Democracy Now part of it if you have the bandwidth Maren.

It's a shocker.


There's no taste like bad taste!