Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Is This Turning Into a Circus?

Whereas I have every sympathy for the parents and share the public's concern for the safety of Madeleine McCann, I cannot help but wonder about certain aspects and motives in this ongoing tragedy.
And now the parents are flying off for an audience with the Pope.

The couple are expected to head for Italy on Tuesday on a private plane provided by a well-wisher before their meeting with Pope Benedict XVI .

197 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/X5PLdj
Irony not her strong point.

12 August 2007
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6942705.stm

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/13hqoZw

Himself said...

Irony not her strong point.

You can sat that again.

And then I see a tweet addressed to me, why? I have the woman blocked, and in response to what I might ask?

They live in a strange world Maren.

Anonymous said...

28 May 2007

http://www.rcdow.org.uk/cardinal/default.asp?library_ref=1&content_ref=1341

Anonymous said...

May 29th, 2007

http://www.cinews.ie/article.php?artid=3568

Anonymous said...

June 25th, 2007

http://www.cinews.ie/article.php?artid=3659

Anonymous said...

3 July 2007

A new religion, No Stone Unturned

suitable for children over four

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-465825/Madeleine-cinema-advert-upsets-Shrek-audiences.html#ixzz2SxsJvqio

But before the showing, an appeal for Madeleine was screened which prompted some mothers to put their hands over their children's eyes.

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/Britanniacomms/status/388941911194861568

Britannia PR ‏
@Britanniacomms
web full of facts denying moon landings, Auschwitz etc. Madeline taken along with many others every year. That's the story.

OMG, they can't even spell her name correctly.

pray for them

Himself said...

Good morning Maren.

Talk about deja bloody vous! Wouldn't you expect a new PR company to come with some new slogans? Those were worn out years ago.

And they are a puka PR company.

https://twitter.com/Britanniacomms

hmmm Why wd a PR company be saying such nice things about #mccanns ? Its getting farcical now #musttryharder

In the proverbial.

Anyway, why would they want a new PR company?

They have Scotland Yard.

Anonymous said...


Good morning H

They have Scotland Yard and Scotland Yard has the perfect fishing lure.

http://news.sky.com/story/1153765/madeleine-mccann-timeline-of-events-wrong

In another clip, the McCanns are asked how often they think of their daughter, who went missing when she was three years old on May 3, 2007 from a holiday apartment as her parents dined at a nearby tapas restaurant with friends.

Mr McCann says: "When it's a special occasion, when you should be your happiest and Madeleine's not there, that's when it really hits home. Obviously, Madeleine's birthday goes without saying."

Mrs McCann adds: "It's when you have big family occasions really. That's it isn't it? 'Family occasion' and you haven't got your complete family."


really

So scary these statements. They don’t even have to lie and many people eat this stuff up. The spiritual destitution of our society. It's all about "appearances". The Kate McCann 'what are my parents going to think?' thing. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm

It doesn’t even cross their mind to say: "every morning when I wake up", "every night before I go to sleep". Well, what else can you expect of a woman who flirts with suicide and her wider agenda man.

Terrifying emptiness but "bulletproof". Sadly.

M



Himself said...

Good morning dear heart.

Blacksmith

http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/the-way-con-continued.html

http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/six-days-that-fooled-world.html

Anonymous said...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VExlE0P-X9U

Andy Redwood

at the 20:07 mark:

This could be the man that took Madeleine, but very importantly there could be an innocent explanation. The E-fits are clear and I’d ask the public to look very carefully at them and if they know who this person is please come forward.


At the 22:00 mark:

...so it’s really important this evening to say to the public that if you recognise yourself [watch Redwood’s facial expression] then please have the courage to come forward, because it’s really important for us to eliminate any sightings that are innocent and nothing to do with Madeleine’s disappearance.


Nothing to do with Madeleine’s disappearance indeed. Scotland Yard couldn’t care less. Madeleine McCann, the perfect fishing lure. Such a clever game.

I almost feel sorry for Kate and Gerry McCann.

Almost. It's a deal after all.


Himself said...

The things you talk me into, even watching the non-blinking alien.

At least I could push it on to the required mark.

There's plenty going on, on twitter.

Anonymous said...


7 AUGUST 2008

The Irish officer who questions M. Smith, in Dublin, writes in his communication to the Portuguese police that Smith refused to participate in the making of the photofit and that he did not tell the story of what he saw to the McCanns’ friend.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/08/mccanns-contacted-witness-that.html

Also, something not quite right about the Portuguese authorities.
IMO

Anonymous said...

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t24754p30-opsporing-verzocht-nederland-1-plus-wo-ist-madeleine-zdf

Himself said...

Hello Chuck, thanks for that, I had almost forgotten the MM thing, years since I have been there.

Anything you sent me prior to last night, I cannot access, "Office" has become corrupt, which in turn effects Outlook.

So at the moment, it's all a bit of a struggle (especially twitter) having to work through the web based server.

My geek is coming Sunday to do a reinstall on Office, so should be back to normal after that.

Apart from that mundane piece of news, not much else to report really.

So take daring girl, and if you can't be good, be careful.

There was a little girl

Who had a little curl

Right in the middle of her forehead

When she was good, she was very very good

But when she was bad, she was fantastic.

Poetic license #666

Himself said...

http://paper.li/tag/mccann

volkskrant.nl

Anonymous said...


Dirty and grimacing as her photo is taken (...)
http://dailym.ai/19gU6Pq

No matter what, this blonde girl, known only as Maria is looking far healthier than Madeleine McCann and in spite of everything Maria is still alive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smile_of_the_Child
International Partners

https://twitter.com/suzy661/status/391297369314455552

http://goodqualitywristbands.blogspot.com/2010/03/madeleine-mccann-case-files-reveal-wot.html

Himself said...

I think, after careful consideration, it would be desirable not to go there.

Anonymous said...

Info (not really).

Look who "decided" to show up:
Maria and Madeleine.

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_24366034/ruben-rosario-jacob-wetterling-still-missing-remains-light

"I have never seen a case where we are looking for the parents instead of the child," Delphine Moralis, deputy secretary general of Missing Children Europe, told reporters.

No comment.

News of the cases has prompted parents of other missing children across the globe, including the U.S., to have lead case investigators inquire whether "Maria" -- who police believe might be 5 or 6 years old -- might be their child.

Across the globe.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1eJwRj7

This one perhaps?

http://themccannarchive.blogspot.com/2010/07/amaral.html

60 of 62
almost end page

Anonymous said...

http://news.sky.com/story/1158880/madeleine-mccann-portugal-cops-may-open-case

And that’s why we do the Tanner sighting elimination and gypsy abductions.

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/McCannTales/status/393270040968974336

I fear the worst.

Cold comfort: McCann case knowing parents will think twice, at least as far as child neglect is concerned.

Kate and Gerry McCann child neglect icons.

As for the rest, they'll get away with it.

Though wonders never cease.



Himself said...

Morning Chuck, we shall have to wait and see won't we.

It's not like we haven't had the practice.

Anonymous said...

At the conclusion of that meeting, the group were joined by Kate and Gerry McCann who were briefed on the plans to apply to reopen the investigation.

http://content.met.police.uk/News/Portuguese-authorities-reopen-investigation-into-Madeleine-McCann/1400020769305/1257246745756

Himself said...

Blah blah.

And in answer to my own question.

No, it's been a circus forever.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/19BjS0W

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1bouQ9e
Yes

Himself said...

LOL

Regarding the 28 Oct link, I had seen it, but only because NJBennett tweeted in into my timeline, I dp block all the wankers as a matter of course.

My inbox looks like the Somme, I need to go through the the thing, because, shame on me, I have only just fallen out of bed.

Later then Chuck, as I sort through.

Anonymous said...

24 October 2013

Gerry and Kate will not be giving any comments regarding the progress of the investigation unless there is a significant breakthrough.

?

http://bit.ly/bPcHJs

Anonymous said...


John Smith 5:11 PM on 28/10/2013

I am really annoyed at this artical which is written in the typical ill informed emotional manner .

The facts are this ,there is no evidence of an abduction and evidence of death in flat 5a.

I am a tax payer I am not a troll just because I dont believe what the Mccanns are saying and I demand an apology from this writer and this paper.


vimeo.com/77932664

More comments

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/news-opinion/pete-price-stop-vile-attacks-6236368

Himself said...

Pedro Silva, according to Blacksmith, is Bren's alter ego.

It's a funny old world lass, it surely is.

But where does it go from here, because I would take some convincing, that Redwood's brief, didn't include pointing the finger at the McCanns. Well we know it didn't/still does.

This ain't down to Redwood, without the timely release of the Times article, Redwood would still be bullshitting us with a straight face.

He would need some amount of brass neck to do that now, but not by any means, would I put it past him to try.

Goodnight sweetheart.

Anonymous said...

This isn’t about a missing girl. As every reasonable person can verify that she’s most likely dead, for sure the British and Portuguese police know. The McCanns are either being used or they pose a threat. A deal perhaps. Higher interests and an American driving force. Just brainstorming.

Also, it seems the situation is getting of hand and becoming uncontrollable.

To me it seems the McCanns are far too confident that they’ll get away with it (beside, no body no crime).

They fear public opinion and therefore their remaining children.

Some kind of bizarre, on one hand pretending their first-born will be ten years old now whilst never reached four, and on the other hand fearing the aging of the other two.


Anonymous said...

getting out of hand
xxx

Anonymous said...


Your words are mine my friend.

Pedro Silva toyboy, useful idiot and highly counter-productive, uses English as well as American spelling and strange grammar in his countless comments. Says she :D

http://bit.ly/1f1lraq




Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXXcGMqtKfo

Himself said...

Watcha trying to tell me, he's a wanker?

I already know that.

Or was it the Portugal thing?

Are you well Chuck?

Are you timelineing #McCann?

Himself said...

Some kind of bizarre, on one hand pretending their first-born will be ten years old now whilst never reached four, and on the other hand fearing the aging of the other two.

Those kids are fucked for life, as things stand. To say nothing of what they are going to be like when the truth comes out.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/17XwdJU

Himself said...

Was that link to a specific story? I'm getting a 500 with a redirect to the home page.

Anonymous said...

Text
Former employee of the Ocean Club is the prime suspect in the abduction of the girl. Details to follow with CM

Comments
http://bit.ly/17XwdJU

Anonymous said...

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/madeleine-claim-pure-speculation-
29712343.html

http://www.anorak.co.uk/373050/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-kidnapper-dead-no-burglars-and-amarals-new-book.html/

Isn’t that your job, Clarence?

In other news, Goncalo Amaral tells Nova Gente magazine he’s written a new book.

Anonymous said...

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.nl/2013/11/update.html

Himself said...

LOL

More LOLs http://bit.ly/1ctVS4n

I shall just tweet this and then watch the clip at your link.

Pardon me, good morning Maren.

Himself said...

I shall watch that upon my return. I can't concentrate at the moment. I've watched a few minutes, but I think it's something that needs to be savoured.

Anonymous said...

Widow suspect accuses PJ of seeking scapegoats

http://bit.ly/1hAtY6q

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/HyQ4Ja

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1habV9m
(guerra, comment 4)

The objective of the libel trial is to convince the British public of their innocence. That's it.

What is disappointing is that the Portuguese authorities are against one of their own.

Anonymous said...

http://tomwinnifrith.com/articles/4057/kate-gerry-mccann-my-sympathy-is-diminishing-rapidly

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/Lennnny11/status/397273633061875712

Anonymous said...

I'm utterly sick and tired of seeing their smugly faces just about everywhere. It's not about looking for Madeleine and it never was imho. They want to intimidate non-believers into saying nothing and the rest of the world to turn a blind eye. Their other two children are held as ransom to that effect. What kind of subhuman hater would someone have to be to want them to suffer even more, haters, evil, etcetera. It's not like they didn't create the whole scenario, one way or another. What the bloody hell is so special about these two people that they seem to be teflon coated whenever the poo hits the fan? Someone seems to be controlling YouTube, I've lost count of the videos that have been removed.

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/FiendishJunkie/status/397435322947997697

Anonymous said...

May 3/4, 2007. It starts with white pyjamas.
Kate and Gerry McCann called family and friends.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id28.html

October 14, 2013. It ends with long-sleeved white pyjamas,
as witnessed by Aoife Smith and which can be seen in BBC1 reconstruction, October 14, 2013.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok
(at the 23:56 mark)

In the meantime, for more than six years, the world is overdosed and brainwashed with Eeyore’s white bottoms with a floral pattern and a frill at the end, and a short-sleeved pink top. Backed up by Jane Tanner’s sighting, as far as a man carrying a child and the pyjama bottoms is concerned.

It is almost as if we had to look for Eeyore pyjamas instead of a real, living and findable little girl. http://gerrymccannsblogs.info/2009/03/message-from-gerry-and-kate-2/

Mathew Oldfield, the most malleable of the group ("get down to reception and see what’s happening with the police!") and Jane Tanner, the most vulnerable, become the foundations of the fairy story. As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.

http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.de/2013/10/light-and-dark.html


Next comments: a sort of pyjamas history.

For the archives, the dustbin or whatever. X


Anonymous said...

May 3, 2007

The telephone rang at around 11pm [03 May] at Trish Cameron's home near Glasgow. She picked it up to hear the voice of her younger brother. "He was distraught, breaking his heart," Mrs Cameron said. "He said: 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted.'

...the little girl they had left asleep in her white pyjamas, had disappeared.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/may/05/world.sandralaville#article_continue


May 4, 2007

Jill Renwick, a family friend, told GMTV at 7:45am, on the morning of 04 May, that the distraught parents were certain that Madeleine had been abducted. "They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour."

Speaking to the BBC later, Ms Renwick said ...

Ms Renwick described the missing girl as a "very pretty, very blonde three-year-old". Madeline was said to have been wearing white pyjamas when she went missing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/04/markoliver


May 4, 2007, at 11.15am
Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann

At the time of her disappearance she was wearing pyjamas, the trousers were white with a floral pattern, and the short-sleeved top was predominantly pink and there was a blue and grey figure of a donkey on the front, with the inscription "Eeyore".

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm


May 4, 2007, at 11.30am
Witness statement of Jane Michelle Tanner

About the child whom appeared to be sleeping, she only saw her legs. The child appeared to be older than a baby. She was barefoot and was wearing what appeared to be cotton pyjamas of a light colour (possibly white or light pink). She is not certain, but has the impression a design on the pyjamas, possibly a floral pattern, but she is not certain.

As regards these details, she does not know what Madeleine was wearing at the moment of her disappearance, because she did not talk to anyone about this. As she concerns the man she saw, she only spoke to Gerald about this, not entering into details, and to the police.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER.htm


May 4, 2007, 12:01AM BST
The Telegraph publishes first report of Madeleine's disappearance.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550571/Three-year-old-feared-abducted-in-Portugal.html

May 4, at 14.20am
Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy

At the time of her disappearance, she was wearing pyjamas with white bottoms with a floral pattern. The short-sleeved top, mainly pink with a blue-grey figure of a donkey bearing the inscription, "EEYORE", an inscription which is also on one of the trouser legs. The pyjamas are "Marks and Spencer" brand.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

Anonymous said...

May 7, 2007
BBC News

About 50 volunteers have been helping to search the area for signs of the girl, including the clothes she was wearing when she vanished.

Her family confirmed she was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Winnie the Pooh character Eeyore.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6631255.stm


May 8, 2007

The direct appeal was the idea of Mrs McCann and her husband, Gerry, rather than of the Portuguese police. The couple also released a description of the pyjamas Madeleine had been wearing when she was taken as her parents dined at a nearby tapas bar. In contrast to normal British police procedure, Portuguese officers did not issue a description of Madeleine's clothing.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/may/08/ukcrime.madeleinemccann


May 8, 2007
BBC News

Madeleine's family have confirmed she was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Winnie the Pooh character Eeyore when she disappeared.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6635463.stm


May 9, 2007

She was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Eeyore on it when she vanished.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-453659/British-paedophile-links-investigated-Madeleine-hunt.html

Anonymous said...

May 10, 2007
BBC news
Kevin Bakhurst

We passed on the accurate details of Madeleine's pyjamas, at the family's request, correcting the police's [?] initial description.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/05/avoiding_intrusion.html


May 10, 2007
Items of clothing found locally did not belong to Madeleine, he said. A picture of the pyjamas she was wearing when she vanished has been released.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6644615.stm


May 10, 2007

Some volunteer search teams had been operating under the assumption that Madeleine was wearing white pyjamas, when they were in fact a pink t-shirt with the character Eeyore and white trousers with a small floral pattern.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454029/Search-Madeleine--police-release-pyjamas-wearing.html


May 10, 2007
Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann,

Only about 01h00 on 4 May 2007 did he learn through RUSSELL that his companion, JANE, at 21h10, could have seen an individual crossing the top of the road with a child in his arms, that may or may not have been his daughter MADELEINE. Asked, he relates that he does not recall to have described exactly the type of pyjamas (colour, designs, etc.) that MADELEINE had worn at the time she disappeared.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm


May 10, 2007
Witness statement of Jane M. Tanner

Subsequently, she had no doubts that it could have been MBM because, through conversations with Fiona Payne in which Fiona Payne described the pyjamas that MBM had worn that night, which coincided with those she had seen. Questioned why she had not commented to KH [Kate Healy] what she had seen that night, namely that she had seen a male individual who carried a child with pink pyjamas, she relates that she always avoided making this comment to the McCanns so as not to torture them more in their suffering.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

Anonymous said...


May 15, 2007

"Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: 'Maddy's jammies. Where is Maddy?' But she is too young to understand. And how do you explain?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/
2007/05/14/1178995077373.html?page=3


May 17, 2007

Many toys have been tied to the railings of the war memorial, including characters from Winnie the Pooh, as Madeleine was wearing Eeyore pyjamas when she disappeared.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/image_galleries/madeleine_mccann_rothley_gallery.shtml?5


May 26, 2007
Witness Aoife Smith

She did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual.

There was nothing covering the child, a comforter/blanket or any other piece of clothing but she only saw her back.

She was wearing light trousers, white or light pink, that may have been pyjamas.

She also had a light top, with long sleeves.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

Anonymous said...


September 6, 2007, at 3.00pm
Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy

She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pyjama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it out to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; nevertheless the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id192.html#sta6


September 19, 2007

But the McCanns say the fluids probably came from Madeleine's unwashed pyjamas and sandals which were carried in the boot when the family was moving apartments.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddys-mum-why-im-innocent-506983

Anonymous said...

April 8, 2008
Jane Tanner - Record Of Tape Recorded Interview

So I'd spoken to the GNR Police and then when the PJ came, they came to get me to talk to them to say, to say what, what I'd seen.

01.04.52 4078 "Sorry, was that on the night that Madeleine had disappeared?"
Reply "That was at three o'clock in the morning after she'd disappeared, yeah".

4078 "So when you went into Gerry and Kate's apartment who else was there?"
Reply "I think there was Russ, I think Russell came with me and there was Sylvie who was the translator. I can't remember which, there was some, there was a PJ chap was sitting on the, by the table. And there was Gerry who was standing by the, the bedroom door".

4078 “And how was Gerry at that point?”
Reply “Oh he was just, well obviously, obviously distraught. And I think it was quite hard for me to be saying at that, you know, looking in his face and to be explaining what I’d seen, at that point was quite hard because, you know, Gerry was obviously standing there, I don’t know whether, and you sort of think ‘Oh God, here’s me, if I’d tried to stop them this wouldn’t have happened’ sort of thing.

I think, just going back a bit, over again, this is something, I think when I realised the true significance of what I’d seen as well was almost like a couple of days afterwards when, erm, erm, I was talking to Fi about the pyjamas, because again it seems madness now why I hadn’t asked Kate and Gerry before this what the pyjamas were like, but it’s all sort of rha rha, you know, so I didn’t know what, what Madeleine’s pyjamas were before this. And I’d actually read in a paper that they were white, it was in the Telegraph, I think it was the day afterwards Dianne had bought a Telegraph paper and in there it was saying she was wearing plain white pyjamas, so I think when I read that I almost thought ‘Oh maybe I have got it wrong’, you know, because I’d, out of everything, I thought ‘Oh they weren’t just plain white’, I thought they had got some sort of thing on it. So I think it might have actually been the next morning, which would probably be the Saturday morning, I think I said something to, about oh, to Fi ‘Oh what were the pyjamas like’ and she actually described the pyjamas and she sort of said ‘Oh no that is what they were like’. And that was, I think that was almost the moment when I couldn’t convince myself anymore that it wasn’t that, you know.

“With, with a turn up, and the turn up I mean I can’t stress this enough, that is the bit that makes me think so much that it is the same pyjamas.”

“Okay, so you think it was pink but you accept that it may not have been, the colour may have been distorted or it might have been such the power of suggestion I suppose.”
Jane Tanner: “That could have been that for me because the pyjamas I really tried to, it was in the interview the next day when they really pushed me you know I think you call it cognitive interview or whatever, really pushed me to get an idea of you know more details about the person and it was then that you know sort of the description of the pyjamas was more in my head than I’d initial, it was mainly the feet as an initial thing.

“Yes. I think the point they’re trying to make is that you had no knowledge of what Madeleine was supposed to have been wearing when you gave that description”?
Reply “No I think, no because when, I wasn’t there at the table when Kate gave a you know, I think Kate gave everybody else, when she came, you know when everyone was looking for her, they had a description of what to look for but I wasn’t, I was in the room at that point so no I definitely didn’t know what she’d, and I’d never seen her in pyjamas, I’ve never seen Madeleine in pyjamas at home and or anywhere so”.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

Anonymous said...

April 11, 2008

RECORD OF TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW DAVID PAYNE

you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour

And really didn’t think twice about it at the time and that’s why it wasn’t mentioned then. But she [Jane Tanner] definitely mentioned it to me you know after Madeleine had been abducted and you know on the, the following day before she’d actually mentioned it to Kate and there was a, a newspaper report, I think it was in the Telegraph err certainly one of the newspapers anyway, that was sort of describing err Madeleine’s pyjamas and, and err Jane said that’s not right, how did they get that, well she said you know, that in, I don’t know how they get that information anyway, my recollections were this was what she was wearing and described it you know differently you know to what the, the, the press had, and that was before she’d even seen Kate so you know, the strength of that argument is just absolutely overwhelming, you know given the time frame err you know of when Madeleine must have gone, gone, that you know and for her to have described in detail the pull ups at the bottom of the pyjamas err you know the colours, you know and the timing is just, you know well, so.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

Anonymous said...

April 30, 2008

Mrs McCann stayed in a bedroom praying. She said: It was really cold. I knew what pyjamas she had on and I just thought she’s going to be freezing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/1908158/Madeleine-McCann-left-alone-as-last-minute-decision.html


2009 and 2010
No pyjamas?

Anonymous said...

May 7, 2011

In extracts printed by The Sun, she tells of how windy it was, and says she kept imagining how cold Madeleine would be in her short-sleeved Eeyore pyjamas, and wishing she’d had her warmer Barbie pyjamas on.

http://dailym.ai/iWtyc1


May 8, 2011

I ran out into the car park of our holiday apartment, flying from end to end, yelling desperately: 'Madeleine! Madeleine!' It was so cold and so windy. I kept picturing her in her short-sleeved Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas and feeling how chilled she would be.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/may/08/madeleine-maccann-mother-suicidal-thoughts


May 8, 2011

As everyone started to search she ran into the car park shouting Madeleine’s name. She added: “It was so cold and windy. I kept picturing her in her short-sleeved Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas and feeling how chilled she would be. Fear was shearing through my body.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-little-brother-promises-127306


May 9, 2011

Her final few minutes with Madeleine are forever etched in her memory.

Madeleine, in her Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas, nuzzling her toy Cuddle Cat beneath a ‘princess’ blanket ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1384977/Kate-McCanns-haunting-account-makes-rue-day-I-doubted-them.html


May 9, 2011
Published in The Sun

Although Jane had never seen or known about Madeleine's Eeyore pyjamas, her description of this child's night clothes matched Madeleine's almost exactly.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/49may11/SUN1_09_05_2011.htm


May 12, 2011
In book Madeleine by Kate McCann.

"The police did not appear to feel that Jane’s sighting in Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva and the man and child reported by the Irish holidaymakers in Rua da Escola Primaria were related. They seem to have concluded that these were in all likelihood two different men carrying two different children (if, they implied, these two men actually existed at all). The only reason for their skepticism appeared to be an unexplained time lapse between the two sightings. They didn’t dovetail perfectly. To me, the similarities seem far more significant than any discrepancy in timing".

"(…remember – Jane’s description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements), I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts.


May 16, 2011

The only other unexplained detail I remember from that morning was a large, brown stain I noticed on Madeleine's pink Eeyore pyjama top. It looked like a tea stain.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/a-familys-never-ending-ordeal/story-e6frg6z6-1226056322286


May 17, 2011

I didn't think of it at the time but the day Madeleine disappeared I noticed what I thought was a tea stain on her Disney pyjama top,' she says. 'I washed it without thinking but looking back, the children hadn’t drunk any tea that day and I can't remember her mentioning that she'd spilt anything.'

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/49may11/WOMAN_17_05_2011.htm

Anonymous said...

June 21, 2011
Interview McCanns in the Netherlands

At the 1:19 mark

Question: He kept the child in his arms?

Kate McCann answers: He was carrying the child [Gerry tries to interrupt] across his arms, like this. You would think he might carry the child ... the shoulder, but he was carrying the child like this.

Gerry McCann: Jane didn’t know what Madeleine was wearing ...
She also described the pyjamas, ... remarkably similar... and she didn’t know that, and another really key thing is, later on that evening, probably about forty minutes later, an Irish family saw a man and they gave an almost identical description of the man and the child.

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2011/exclusief-interview-met-kate-mccann

Anonymous said...

March 25, 2012
ANOTHER STORY
By Dr Martin Roberts

But whoever it was that members of the Smith family actually saw being carried, it could not have been Madeleine McCann in her Eeyore pyjamas. The child seen by Aoife Smith was said to have been wearing a long-sleeved top. If one is prepared to accept that Jane Tanner can discern the colour of a garment from some distance away, in the dark, when she cannot even see the item in question, then it is even more reasonable to accept the accuracy of Aoife Smith's close-up description.


August 23, 2012
'OUT, DAMN'D SPOT'
By Dr Martin Roberts

Kate's transient preoccupation with those Eeyore pyjamas may have been indicative of nothing more than a concern for 'keeping up appearances,

And then, irony of ironies, with Kate having made a special point of washing out a seemingly innocuous stain, the pyjamas are abducted, never to be seen again.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id400.html


May 24, 2013

Madeleine was wearing pink pyjamas, with an Eeyore motif, on the night she was taken from apartment 5a on the ground floor of the Waterside Gardens at the Ocean Club complex.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330660/Madeleine-McCann-Was-Maddie-snatched-monster-killed-little-lookalike-British-detectives-uncover-dramatic-new-lead--Portuguese-refusing-investigate.html


July 8, 2013
By Dr Martin Roberts
NO WAY OUT

He could not, therefore did not, exit the apartment with a child in his arms in the two or three minutes between Gerry McCann's last 'check' on the children and Jane Tanner's 'sighting'. Nor did he leave the apartment afterwards, carrying Madeleine past the Smiths. The child they witnessed was wearing the wrong pyjamas. And since the intending abductor was not discovered inside the apartment subsequently then he was not there at all.

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t23969-dr-martin-roberts-no-way-out-with-thanks-to-mccannfilescom

Anonymous said...

October 15, 2013

'Revelation moment': Police revealed a major breakthrough when a British father came forward to reveal he was the man who for six years had been considered the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case.

Evidence: The girl seen at 9.15pm wore distinctive pyjamas and the prime suspect also brought these to police to prove his innocence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460669/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapping-innocent-British-father-mistaken-key-suspect.html


October 15, 2013

We know the pyjamas their child was wearing… We are almost certain this [Tanner] sighting isn’t the abductor. - Detective Chief Inspector Redwood

http://www.thestar.ie/star/irish-couples-vital-clue-in-maddie-hunt-34798/


October 15, 2013

The potential prime suspect is described as white, in his 30s, of medium build and height, clean shaven with short brown hair. He was carrying a child aged three or four who had blonde hair and was wearing pyjamas similar to Madeleine’s.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/436799/MADDIE-Are-police-closer-to-breakthrough-after-overwhelming-response-to-Crimewatch

Anonymous said...


The McCanns altered the Smith sighting carrying style so as to match that of the Tanner sighting, in a McCann made reconstruction aired only a few days after Amaral's (in which he included the Smith sighting).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY
from 6:36: watch "Smith" man carrying a child horizontally across his arms.


Did the McCanns also alter the pyjamas style so as to discredit the Smith sighting (girl in white, long-sleeved, pyjamas) as soon as they became aware of Jane Tanner’s sighting early morning May 4, after they had already texted and phoned family and friends.

Gerry knew that he was seen by the Smith family.

Jane, unknowingly at that time, gave Gerry McCann a perfect alibi. Just one small problem, the pyjamas.


If not, then who is that girl in white long-sleeved pyjamas in BBC1 documentary, October 14, 2013?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok
(at the 23:56 mark)


Not the "Tanner" pyjamas, then also not the "Eeyore’s"?

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8428/7bs2.jpg


http://twitpic.com/7hz4rr
Answers on a postcard please.


Himself said...

Good heavens lass! you've been a busy bee, to say the least.

I'm not long in actually, but I seem to have twitpic up and running ok.

There is no way I can get my head round that lot at this time of night, that's definitely a job for the morn.

Do you want me at this stage to invite folks to view, or have you more to come?

As I say, in the morning.

But I will also say, I know just how much work goes into researching and writing up something like this.

Pretty impressive to say the least.

Warmest regards to you Maren, thank you.

Anonymous said...

Hello H

You can make a better assessment if it's worth viewing.

The "Eeyore's" has always bothered me. So, thank you for giving the opportunity to make comments.

Good night, sleep well. M x

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/JillyCL/status/403339480884445184

I suspect Jez Wilkins threw a spanner in the works by suddenly appearing. Then Smiths completely scuppered the plan.

That's also what I believe.

Himself said...

I concur.

The only thing that was in place between finding Madeleine dead, or her being killed by one of the nine (my money is on Kate) was the arrangement for damage limitation, orchestrated from the UK.

Hence all the deleted phone calls.

Because a plan had to be in place. Not even scumbags like the McCanns would have tried to pull such a stunt without the backing of someone that wielded a great deal of influence.

Payne apart, as far as we know, the rest of the tapas were just normal people, and as such, would they have listened to Gerry McCann, if he alone had said: gather round kiddywinks, I've got a plan.

And was it just a threat to their relative careers (child neglect, if indeed is was a case of that) that made them go along with what at the time, must have seemed like a pretty harebrained and drastic solution?

As we have said since day one, discover the "why" and you would probably discover the truth of it all.

Anonymous said...

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P7/07_VOLUME_VI1a_Page_1815.jpg

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm

1810 to 1816 - Cover letter and Police Scientific Laboratory Report 31 May 2007 re: Quinta dos Figos forensic recoveries 2007.05.06

Anonymous said...

Forensic report 23 November 2007 on Eeyore pyjamas

REQUEST

We request the examination of the samples collected from the garden wall with the aim of carrying out the 'search and identification of eventual fibres and their comparison with the two parts of the pyjamas similar to those the girl was wearing when she disappeared'

...

CONCLUSION

The analysis of the samples collected from the garden wall of the apartment of the OC yielded the following results:

- No synthetic fibres compatible with the fibres received for comparison from the pyjamas were found.

- Numerous white cotton fibres were found. However, this result should not be considered to be significant, given that according to studies of distribution and persistence of textile fibres it should always be possible to find fibres of different types and colours on any surface, white cotton fibres being very common and without discriminatory parameters.

...

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm

scroll down to

3483 to 3487 Forensic report 23 November 2007 on Eeyore pyjamas (+ photographs)

----------------------------------

Numerous white cotton fibres were found.

Perhaps this result could be considered to be significant, if Madeleine was not wearing the Eeyore pyjamas when she disappeard.

----------------------------------

She was wearing light trousers, white or light pink, that may have been pyjamas. She does not remember if they were patterned as it was dark. The material was lightweight/thin and could have been cotton.

Witness testimony of Aoife Smith.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm#p6p1611

Himself said...

Hi Maren, I've had a quick breeze through your first set of links, but read on further down the page.

As is the norm, reading it in detail is a job for tomorrow.

Should you come up with anything interesting or contentious, I will of course publish it.

But right now, it's my time. Tha knows.

Enjoy your weekend Maren, as I shall endeavor to do the same.

xx

Anonymous said...

Hello H

Only info. Just a theory, for what it's worth.

It's so strange, I never believed Madeleine was wearing Eeyore's. But, to be credible, one has to wait for more information and facts, as far as you can call the facts facts.

Well, it's never too late to do the right thing, if only for expressing thoughts.

We'll enjoy the weekend as we enjoy every other day.

Mx

Anonymous said...

"So that's what we're trying to get agreement between the two governments and the two police services."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-news-dci-andy-2863156

So, that is what they are trying to get.


Himself said...

That's what Joana is afraid of.

Meanwhile, everybody, me, nobby lobby and katycakes apart, are all back on the Met "ploy" gig. to say nothing of a Pat Brown wankfest.

Oh include Muttfan in our little group, he can play D'Artagnan (and because I didn't know how to spell D'Artagnan, Wikipedia have just shamed me into a £10 donation)

Where was I? Oh yes, WTF is Blacksmith rattling on about?

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/?spref=tw


I must not drink red wine.
I must not drink red wine.
I must not drink red wine.

A very rare occasion, I plead.


Anonymous said...

MITTWOCH, 18. DEZEMBER 2013

Hellseher fliegt nach Portugal: Findet er Maddies Grab?

http://bit.ly/1dottbF

Der Hellseher Michael Schneider (43) aus Siegburg (NRW) fliegt am Dienstag [24 December?] nach Portugal!

Don't you just love the word "Hellseher".

Anonymous said...

http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2013/12/body-language-spotting-mccanns-lies.html?spref=tw

Last line
Update: Relative to the video, Too many details

Link not working.

Himself said...

Thank you Maren, now sorted.

http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2007/01/ignore-for-link-puposes-only.html

Let me take this opportunity to thank you for your company, your support and your contributions throughout the year.

And to wish a pleasant Christmas and a safe and fulfilling 2014.

Fondest regards to you Maren.

Mel xxx

Anonymous said...

Mel, let me thank you for the interesting blog posts, links and not least the English language lessons. Even the studying, more or less bilingual educated, children ask for my help, partly out of laziness I suppose, but still.

I think Christmas here is not the English version as for the emotional thing (in terms of sentimental). Perhaps it’s just me, but especially American Christmas strikes me as gushy sentimental. Cultural difference, probably. Nonetheless the influences are marching on as far as buying of presents is concerned. Fruitful for the Dutch economy of course.

Altogether, it’s personal, depending upon adequacy, don’t you think.

Mooie Kerstdagen to you and your loved ones,

with warmest regards,

Maren
xxx

Himself said...

Thank you.

Himself said...

http://bit.ly/1eCEQlF

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1eCEQlF
Only in the Netherlands.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1ccZPaf

http://bit.ly/1loCXGQ

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/_DarkMavis/status/416992860576051200

http://themccanngallery.blogspot.com/2009/11/interview-with-sandra-felgueiras.html

Anonymous said...

After all the far-fetched theories about what may have happened to Madeleine, there may be a far more simple explanation: that a burglary went horribly wrong.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533510/Police-identify-three-prime-suspects-abduction-Madeleine-McCann-following-analysis-mobile-phone-data.html


After all the far-fetched theories about what may have happened to Madeleine, there is a far more simple explanation:

http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.co.uk/



Anonymous said...

bit.ly/1i9z3SE
RT e-fit nonsense 14 Oct.

Anonymous said...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/europe-failing-to-protect-roma-from-discrimination-and-poverty-a-942057.html

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1aiC6me

but metpoliceUK accepts it as it stands?

Odd.

Himself said...

Morning Chuck, said he at twenty past two.

Just one more task to do, pass on your Templar links, and then I must do stuff around the house. I'm having a major change round in the set-up if you get my drift.

No doubt I shall be popping in for a tobacco break throughout the day.

Later then.

Anonymous said...

Hello H. I get your drift. I'll pop back later as Henry and I will go for a walk. Chuck

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1ch2LQh

Himself said...

LOL Pic for today!

Anonymous said...

Global circus.

Nigeria Daily News.

https://twitter.com/NG_DailyNews/status/423010253471350785

Sounds familiar. LOL

Anonymous said...

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

Anonymous said...

Good morning daily mirror,

Foxy Knoxy guilty. Hope for the McCanns.
http://bit.ly/1bc71RD

http://bit.ly/1ecw39i

Anonymous said...

inger26
what happened to the three robbers story we had last week? what a circus!

http://dailym.ai/1kEqNvh

Himself said...

OT Not quite so bad as the tweet implies.

Netherlands: 9 psychiatric patients euthanised http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2014/01/02/in-the-netherlands-nine-psychiatric-patients-received-euthanasia/ …

Anonymous said...

Google Translate
http://bit.ly/1nZd0lA
summarised to some extent: quarrel between doctors, two negative, one positive.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/03/the-dutch-debate-doctor-assisted-suicide-for-depression.html

Meanwhile, guns, which are widely and legally owned in most of the country, are the favored American means of terminating one’s own life: about 20,000 people a year shoot themselves.

Anonymous said...

bit.ly/1eJvO4e
I despair.
Can you get any dumber (and cheaper).

Anonymous said...

cheap
bit.ly/1fVklPh

Yes m'dear, it's like shooting fish in a barrel today.

#learnedthemeaning

Ta

Himself said...

Received email, but as ye can see, no comment.

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Is This Turning Into a Circus?":

Action is reaction.
Well done m’dear.

http://bit.ly/1okiWFL

xxx (pseudonym)

And like you, I’m consistently right.


What wonderful children we would have Maren; infallible, bicycle riding, mariners.

Thanks. I'd no idea feelings ran so high.

Well you do now.

I do think idea that MSM are covering up is a little paranoid.

Oh really?

We have laws to observe.

Remind me what's taking place at the Old Bailey, as we speak.


In fact, I think I might make a little tweet of this. (maybe?)

I do like your pseudonym, a fellow could get used to such things.

It's been far too long since I caressed, and lost myself in the fragrance of a good woman. I do miss it.

Anonymous said...

@19 December 2013 11:13

Not only in Germany.

Do you remember the Dutch voodoo priest H? Well, we also have a sixth sense paranormal man.

http://bit.ly/MmN44H

It’s unusual, but not completely rare. NL

Himself said...

Eeh gads and little fishes! as my mother would say.

I was about to tell you not to bother searching that one, thinking it unique to Mother.

Wrong!

https://linguistlist.org/issues/5/5-856.html

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-yeg1.htm

http://forum.thefreedictionary.com/postst6504p2_-Nice--Expletives.aspx

But then, aren't the strangest, the most obscure, and the everyday sayings, usually based on something?

The Children's rhyme, Ring a Ring of Roses, immediately springing to mind.

http://www.examiner.com/article/ring-around-the-rosie-and-the-black-death

Jeebus! the stuff you find on the web.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdPCCKPDBY


Where was I?

Oh yer man. Even allowing for translation, the bloke is round the bend. Here we go again!

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/round+the+bend

Shall I try something useful? Assuming you use Firefox of course.

I don't use Google translate if I can help it. In fact I try to stay away from Google wherever possible.

(Said he - Google blogger)

I find this little addon a boon.

Translate part of the text (grey it out) or translate the whole page.

And it's all on the right click menu of your mouse. Just set it to your native language.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/igv/?src=api

Other news.

I shall be moving house shortly? (1 to 3 months?)

I'm going to take a bungalow in a semi-rural situation. My own front door at last.

It's nice enough here, but it is like living in a goldfish bowl. Even though there are only six apartments, and three of those are empty!

AS I say, a semi-rural situation with a decent back garden, with only trees and fields beyond.

It even has a greenhouse. lol

Time methinks, for - . .- dah dit di-dah

Later Chuck.

Just had a jolt in the old memory box, a very early post of mine. It makes your fellow look positivity sane. If I can Find it.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for all the links, Mother is unique. A lot of weekend reading to get through. I should rent an empty apartment.

Relaxing weekend M

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1dGqKh9

Himself said...

http://bit.ly/1dGqKh9 Not showing

Good morning Maren.

This sounds awfully familiar.

I seem to recall someone from Brazil? writing something very similar a few years back.

The consensus of opinion then, was that he was looking for a freebie to Europe.


I confirmed yesterday that I was taking the new house.

I will post a few pics later on in the, Ignore for Link purposes only post. I just have to crop them.

Anonymous said...

freebie to Europe LOL

Perfect home, beautiful wildscape M

Himself said...

Thank you Chuck, and I think so too.

As I said, my own front door, and no stairs.

Not that I can't manage stairs, but dragging the shopping up them is a bit of a bugger.

Just completed all my forms, so off to the big city now. (Blackpool)

Later Chuck, later.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y86Atuaqa0k&sns=tw

0:34 Ah right, thank you for helping (...)

YCMIU

Anonymous said...

So the boss of Scotland Yard had to be told what £10m Operation Grange was? Hmm what's going on?

http://bit.ly/1jWGZdC

Himself said...

Good Morning Maren

I don't know what is going on my lovely, not with a few die-hard pros I don't.

The consensus with a diminishing few, seems to have gone from a Redwood "Trap/ploy" to "we can't know what they are doing" the cops that is.

There's nowt so queer as folk, as we say oop north.

To wander off topic, but staying with queer folk, or should that be queer suppliers?

To facilitate my move, I ordered, (online) from the same company, on the same order, at the same time, two rolls of bubble wrap and some packaging tape.

Via carrier, I received one roll on Wednesday, one roll on Thursday, and the tape through the post. Work that one out!

You may think it a funny thing to mention, but to me it was profound. It assailed my logical mind if you will.

And of moving, I have a question. Where does it all come from?

Stuff, I'm talking about. Stuff everywhere. More stuff than you can shake the proverbial stick at.

So as you might guess, I am busy, busy, busy, packing stuff up. I am only moving three miles, but three or three hundred, the packing remains the same.

Coming back to the case, I note that a majority of my "Dear fans" are even cooler towards me than they were previously. At least I didn't say:

I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!

So my Darling, my internet activity, and my responses to your dear self, might be somewhat sporadic for the near future.

More tea, a quick look round twitter, and then back to the grind.

xxx

Anonymous said...

Hi H. I'd love to help. I do, in spirit, which is inspirational. It's overdue maintenance here (paintwork), revamping house and garden, dumping stuff (recycling shop) and all that. Spring is in the air. Manual labour, isn’t it wonderful.

In the meantime bit.ly/1f8zjwW

Back to the grind, m’dear.

Love and luck.

M xxx

Himself said...

Well I'll be buggered! What are you like?

Barnaby's Sands! Never even heard of it.

http://www.tomrichardsonphotography.co.uk/gallery_518350.html

(Check out some of the other galleries, some nice pics)

I had just that moment sat down when your mail popped in.

Thank you for your words and thoughts, and thank you very much for the photo. We are in tune, you and I.

http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2007/01/ignore-for-link-puposes-only.html


The Cottage.


Little red cottage not far from the sea,

Oh that it belonged to you and to me.

Little red cottage needs more than one,

It aches as I, now you are gone.



Little red cottage knows it’s feeling,

Nothing happier than four feet reeling.

Little red cottage feels so blue,

It comes to life with the breath of two.



Little red cottage wants fairie girl,

To keep this man’s heart all awhirl.

Little red cottage misses your touch,

Darling girl, I miss you, I miss you

Oh so very much.

2001

"Gone" as in gone, Monday to Friday.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1m46vyk
Yes, considered.

Anonymous said...

The McCanns versus the media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epZEpwVXgyw

At the 5:18 – 5:26 mark: McCanns kissing the baby.

The baby doesn’t like it (5:19 Kate) and (5:24 Gerry).

Anonymous said...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-police-hunting-3259720

I don’t recognise this top, but it reminded me of Weißer Ring

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Zimmermann

Zimmermann was a co-founder of Weißer Ring e.V. (White Ring), an organisation that assists victims of crimes, and was its chairman for many years.

https://www.weisser-ring.de/internet/kampagnen/kampagne-schuldig/

Anonymous said...

http://www.met.police.uk/madeleine-mccann-appeal/

https://www.facebook.com/metpoliceuk

Sarah Kitley
Cover up, anyone?

Anonymous said...

http://spudgunsspoutings.blogspot.nl/2014/04/madeleine-mccann-what-price-truth-6m.html#comment-form

Comment 7 April 2014 13:28
(...)They don´t protect the McCann's, they protect the VIP "guests" who were at the OC that week (...)

Who knows.



Himself said...

An interesting hypothesis Maren. Who knows indeed?

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1huE7mn
I don’t agree with PO, but DP seems to have lawyers, interesting.

Anonymous said...

@12 April 2014 18:21

and suddenly

Alison Percival
@PercivalAlison
Freelance Journalist and writer
Brighton, UK · alisonpercival.com

has a protected twitter account.

Himself said...

That's what you get when you put your head above the parapet and rattle your sabre. A hail of bullets.

Totally OT. The "Lost Legion" (the ninth) got a mention on the radio, so I did a little reading on it. The Netherlands gets a small mention, but that's by the by.

This is the first page I opened.

http://www.whale.to/b/hennessey5.html

Further reading made no mention of this, so I went back and clicked on his name.

Don't people write shite.

Reptiles an'all.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1gs1Dj2

He also claims to have investigated evidence of a powerful civilisation not from around here and had his photo taken with an alleged Imperial princess who wished to introduce him to her Mother.

How earthly.

Anonymous said...

(...)I have a open mind. My views are informed by my experience of the case not the partisan emotion demonstrated by 2many.
http://bit.ly/1f83mWX

I can hardly believe his tweets are supported by NSY. The man is riddled with "partisan emotion" and is not able or not allowed to counter "misinformation" or to answer simple questions.

Thrown to the wolves?

Himself said...

Good morning Maren.

Indeedy, his timeline is full of it.

It's also full of the ironic, but he don't do irony do he?

https://twitter.com/JimGamble_INEQE/status/457823491057025024

Anonymous said...

Hi H, no he don't. It's alarming. Mx

http://bit.ly/1tttZz9
http://bit.ly/1k11Avk

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1gNXdjg



Himself said...

He's something else isn't he. Imagine what he was like when he was wielding a bit of power.

A bitter Protestant man from a bitter Protestant town. Bangor.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1k5L6lm

Himself said...

Good morning Maren, you are well dear lady?

I would love to say the same, but I'm having a bit of a week of it what with one thing or another.

And a funeral tomorrow of all things. A friend, sixty eight years, killed on the motorway (while on foot) last week.

I have no details as yet, but possibly fleeing from the cops?

I shall probably find out more tomorrow.

http://bit.ly/1novKvO

http://bit.ly/1pqyWJi

Lots of jobs to do, but I don't think I can be arsed, as we say.

Back to bloody twitter I guess.

Later Chuck.

Anonymous said...

Tragic. I wish you all the best H.

Later Mx

Anonymous said...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccanns-parents-we-wont-3459122

The McCanns would apply for death certificate, but that will prove Amaral right.


Anonymous said...

http://dailym.ai/1m0Mo2U

SY and the Portuguese authorities work hand in glove IMO.

The McCanns need closure (curious twins). Therefore the need to prove Amaral (and his book) wrong.

Why are the McCanns being protected?

But at the end of the day the media are nobody's friend.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1uIIf7z
picture from article 17 May 2007 http://bit.ly/SGIKRo
(Property raided by police. SM lived there with his parents, yards from the local church.)

http://dailym.ai/1mHCaY7
picture from article 7 May 2014 http://dailym.ai/1m0Mo2U
(search area 1)

Coincidence?

Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1tAZrZi


12th May 2014
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/378435/Madeleine-McCann-resort-dig-gets-the-go-ahead

"The first area to be examined is one the size of three football pitches across the road from the Ocean Club resort where the McCanns were staying when Madeleine disappeared.

Holiday flats funded by Irish investors were going to be built on the land until the economic crisis forced the project’s cancellation."

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/S36Cxb
of course

Anonymous said...

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-06-04/madeleine-police-taken-by-surprise-by-discovery-of-hole/

...they didn't know it was there.

What a coincidence!

Anonymous said...

Good morning H,

http://bit.ly/1xaT7wu
Indeed

How anyone can believe this SY hole nonsense is totally beyond me.
Must be their trust in SY. What’s in a name. Mx

Himself said...

Is this turning into a circus Maren, or was it ever thus?

Good morning Chuck. What is going on, tell me? My brain is loosing the ability to compute this lot, or is it just my bullshit spotter has a virus?

Talking of which, as soon as I have written this and have quick look round, I must scan this machine, I'm still getting plagued by updowntuv, but only on twitpic, so I don't know who has been compromised, me or them.

Oh, I had a nice little moment this morning, I had four sparrows feeding in my little bird house. I don't think I have seen four of the once ubiquitous sparrows in the same place for thirty years. Is it the same in the Netherlands?

Through your links, I have just ended up on winnower's twitter home page. I had to smile at her wallpaper, The Gleaners, lol.

AS I said, a quick look round now and then get squared away.

Later Maren, later my love.

Ignore this test

Himself said...

Test < a > don't work.

Anonymous said...

Good morning m’dear,

Wow, your sparrows sighting, made me smile. I get the picture. Back in my childhood days, sparrows were considered to be a nuisance and over the years their numbers declined. But in recent years, in the last decade or so, their numbers increased amazingly, I am happy to say. Schadenfreude, lol. Charming little birds with their rapid wing beats.

Des glaneuses, The Gleaners, Die Ährenleserinnen, Aarenleessters, the same oil painting, different language. Gleaners yard, smiley. M*

Anonymous said...

The irony. It is spelled Arenleessters M* from Holland.

Himself said...

Hello Maren. What a game hey?

Well you must know what's been happening, so nothing much to report.

Other than I suppose.

https://twitter.com/JillyCL/status/475417819451252736

Toast. (blocked)

And I think J B Littlemore will be joining her soon.

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/blamedandshamed/status/476090439058350082

Well, at the end of the day the media are nobody's friend.

----------------------------------

Kay Burley: Revenge? It's probably best served after seven years [as Gianni Versace always said]

11 May 2011
http://bit.ly/TB8nmV

----------------------------------

It's a funny old world m'dear. Mx




Himself said...

Thank you Maren, I shall go and read both.

And you're quite right, it is a funny old world. My first search just now for plastic ivy, brought up a bunch of gay saunas.



Anonymous said...

Hi H. Now that we're on the subject of plastic ivy, my first search brought up footwear, sneakers and artificial plant! M

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1peKcIb
(faved by Kay Burley)

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/TomSkyNews/status/476617701881032704

https://twitter.com/xklamation/status/476637514363846656

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/Killdara/status/476662936145244160

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/TJwwHW

LOL

Anonymous said...

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/french-english/gruger

Anonymous said...

Police Alerts UK
#McCann The graffiti was scrawled in large red letters on the wall overnight.

http://bit.ly/UtDbGQ

faved by @RedditGraffiti

Anonymous said...

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.nl/2014/06/mirror-mirror.html

Himself said...

Thanks Chuck.

Anonymous said...

I read there's some talk about the Hubbards and the church thing.

Info, perhaps totally irrelevant.


June 23, 2005

http://portugalresident.com/an-english-country-fair-in-the-western-algarve

St Vincent’s locum Assistant Chaplain, Father Haynes Hubbard, his wife Susan and children Gabriel and Sebastian, put their full energy into the day. Although occupying only a brief tenure, Father Haynes, whose parish is in Ontario near Niagara Falls, inspired his Luz congregation and was clearly a hit among visitors to the fair. He has now left for pastures new and we wish him and his family well.

Anonymous said...


The strategy experts getting a dose of their own medicine.

http://news.sky.com/story/1283299/mccanns-angry-as-libel-trial-is-delayed-again

1:10

Q: Do you think this was a strategy from Gonçalo Amaral?

Gerry McCann: Clearly.
Kate McCann: Yes.


Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1piwLna
http://bit.ly/1piwLUh


http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

Scroll down.

The truth about the McCanns' lie mccannfiles

By Nigel Moore
17 June 2014

Yesterday, outside the Palace of Justice, in Lisbon, following the postponement of court proceedings, the 'furious' McCanns raged:

Gerry McCann: "This is the fourth time that this has happened, when we've travelled to Portugal."

Kate McCann: "...this has happened now about four times, as Gerry said this can't be seen as anything but blatant and cynical."

...

So the accusation that Gonçalo Amaral has manipulated the postponement of the trial for the 'FOURTH time' is a blatant and cynical lie by the McCanns, lapped up without question by the mainstream media.

The truth is, this is the FIRST time (get that, Mr O'Shea?) that a decision by Gonçalo Amaral has directly affected the proceedings.

But then, why tell the truth when you can sell stories?



Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1m1L0NO
Who knows?

Himself said...

Good morning Maren, I could well believe it. If not that, something else. Something that gave the appearance of Mongolism?

She looked like she had a touch of it, for her first eighteen months or so.

It would certainly explain why there were no medical records. (forthcoming)

Autistic kid - "I have had the best day of my life today." Right.

Four year old kid - "I have had the best day of my life today." Right.

Anonymous said...

Good evening H

Yes, a syndrome. I could well believe it, too. It always struck me, and others here who have seen photos.
http://bit.ly/1voXJeH
http://bit.ly/Tx4Hli
http://bit.ly/TK34kN
http://dailym.ai/1qrNLLI

Those "secret" medical records and, as far as I know, the McCanns’ total lack of concern for Madeleine’s health since her disappearance; it’s all so strange.

I know it borders speculation, but then why all the excessive emphasis on beautiful, bright, funny, caring and special? It almost sounds like a confession, unnatural anyway, and it doesn’t serve any larger purpose. Well, it could be cultural difference, although I doubt it.

I do not blame God for Madeleine’s abduction. – Kate McCann in "Madeleine"

Talking of syndrome. M

Himself said...

Good morning my little tulip.

Some pretty suspect pics there Maren, if not, in the case of the first one, downright scary.

Unnatural yes, cultural difference no.

No doubt you have seen the latest nonsense on all the arguido/suspects. Mitchell?

Himself said...

The way it reads, I wouldn't have thought so.

Ironic, I've just mentioned "a source close to" in my last tweet.

And there's no ambiguity who that source is.

Himself said...

Done, thank you very much.

That is the first time I watched that performance. Stroll on! as we say.

http://www.encyclo.co.uk/define/Stroll%20On

Which led to a new dictionary.

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/slang.htm

Which might come in handy for you.

xxx

Himself said...

Eeh bah gum lass, there's some beauties in that little lot, I bet the judge was really impressed.

And the second link? I shall send it to who ever it was that was having a rant over the "poor Kate" pics.

Children do say things don’t they.

Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings.

Anonymous said...

11 May 2011

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/8506277/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-McCann-fears-outfit-may-have-led-to-kidnap.html

caption photo:
McCann family handout photo taken at 2.29pm on May 3 - the day Madeleine McCann (right) went missing


Being anything but a shadow expert and not knowing the first thing about photoshop techniques, I always found that Gerry looks alienated in that photo as if he’s not part of the overall picture, which could also be the case without photoshop of course.

But what I do see in that photo is that Amelie is wearing a peach-coloured smock top, not Madeleine as Kate McCann stated in her account of the truth.

Amelie and Madeleine, same clothing size? (Eeyore pyjamas spring to mind)


From "Madeleine" by Kate McCann, page 65/66

Some images are etched for all time on my brain. Madeleine that lunchtime is one of them. She was wearing an outfit I’d bought especially for her holiday: a peach-coloured smock top from Gap and some white broderie-anglaise shorts from Monsoon – a small extravagance, perhaps, but I’d pictured how lovely she would look in them and I’d been right.

At the Toddler Club near the Tapas restaurant Fiona collected Lily and headed back to her flat. Madeleine and I met up with Sean, Amelie and Gerry and returned to ours for lunch. As the children were getting quite restless in the apartment we decided to get them out in the fresh air before the afternoon’s activities. We went to the play area, which was such a hit with our three that they never seemed to get fed up with it. We then sat round the toddler pool for a while, dipping our feet in, and I took what has turned out to be my last photograph to date of Madeleine. Heartbreaking as it is to look at it for me now, it encapsulates the essence of Madeleine: so beautiful and so happy.


Madeleine: so beautiful and so happy, but not wearing her peach-coloured smock top (from Gap).


Himself said...

Forwarded to Johanna, Maren.

Himself said...

Read and noted Chuck.

Anonymous said...

July 5, 2013

http://lhro.wordpress.com/2013/07/05/195-leads-for-scotland-yard-in-mccann-investigation/

SMITH SIGHTING

31 A family of 7 encounter a man carrying a child while going home from a pub at 22:00 on May 3rd.
32 The child is of Madeleine’s age and height and resembles Madeleine
33 The man is of the same height, has the same hair and general appearance of Gerry McCann
34 Mr Smith is 60-80 % certain that the person they saw was Gerry McCann
35 Aoife Smith describes the pants of the man as having buttons as ornaments
36 Gerry McCann is photographed once as owning such pants
37 The time of the encounter is the exact same time as the alleged detection of the disappearance although latter is not corroborated by independent witnesses
38 The sighting – although reported once in an irish paper – is never picked up by british media or the McCanns although it would have been the best confirmation for an abduction.
39 Only two years later the Smith sighting becomes part of their “documentary” although the key points get changed to fit the Tanner sighting
40 Pressure put on the PJ to highlight the Tanner sighting came at exactly the same time as the Smith family were being brought back to Portugal to go over the sighting in more detail
41 The sighting was in a different part of town from the Tanner sighting
42 The carrying style was completely different to that of the Tanner sighting
43 The man was heading in a completely different direction from the Tanner sighting
44 There was a time difference of 45 minutes between both sightings
45 Goncalo Amaral was removed from the case just when he tried to get the Smiths to Portugal again
46 Brian Kennedy contacted the Smiths to get them to take part in creating a photofit.
47 No innocent person ever came forward regarding the sighting
48 The child was carried without a blanket despite the cold night

Himself said...

Good morning Maren.

25 August 2014 13:36

It is said one needs a good memory to be a good liar. A bit of intellect doesn't do any harm either.

28 August 2014 06:50

Not a bad list. (saved)

Himself said...

Bye the bye, my sunflowers now M2:40, still no flowers yet.

Anonymous said...

Bonsoir Lui-même,

Whereas patience is one of the seven heavenly virtues, in real life we are dependent on the weather gods. Sun in September or auto flowering, equally fortunate. M x

Himself said...

Bonjour Elle-même.

Whereas I may have planted late, end of June I think, sunshine we have had aplenty.

And at present we have wind more than plenty. Given the plants are now 600/7000mm above the trellis (& final wire support) what does one do, leave them to their own devices or lash canes to the trellis to support them further?

I would like the satisfaction of seeing them flower, as equally I would like the flower heads to feed the birdies when they have died off.

But will I still be here next year, I don't know?

Of all my neighbours, I like none the best. Something that most certainly doesn't apply to my present situation.

We shall see.

Himself said...

Well, I have read his interview, and maybe I'm being slow, but I think you're going to have to spell it out for me.

Other than Murat's introduction the following day and a possible tenth tapas?

Anonymous said...

Probably far-fetched, but you never know, tha knows.
----------------------------------

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm
17th May 2008

I am police detective 4078 Ferguson of the Leicestershire Police Force, currently working at the main Crime Unit within the Operation Task investigation.

At 10.30 on 21st April 2008 I was present at the recorded interview that took place in Telford Avenue, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, of the witness Stephen Carpenter.

DCF: Okay, as I already explained previously this will be filmed so that we can send the CD so that the Portuguese can hear instead of only reading the statement, once they get a copy.

SC: Ah ha.

DCF: And I know that before we begin the questioning, that you showed some concern about the truthful recording of the facts and that they could have had some distortions by what you have read about the event.

SC: Yes.

DCF: Therefore what we have agreed to do is to read your statement and put the facts together.


When I crossed the road outside the MW reception I remember there were cars parked, I remember taking some time to see if I could cross the road because there were cars parked to my left and I was carrying I****.

----------------------------------

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR3/cr3_31.jpg
data do depoimento (date of testimony)
21/04/2008

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/CR3/cr3_40.jpg
21/04/2008

Quando atravessei a estrada no exterior da recepção lembro-me de haver carros estacionados, recordo-me de levar algum tempo a verificar se podia atravessar porque estavam carros estacionados à minha esquerda e eu carregava a Isabella nos braços.

(When I crossed the road outside the reception I remember there were cars parked, I remember taking some time to see if I could cross because there were cars parked to my left and I was carrying Isabella in the arms.)

----------------------------------

in the arms (nos braços), lost in translation from English to Portuguese, just the way the Portuguese describe it or deleted from the original English version?

Himself said...

11:26 I gotcha.

12;01 Will RT


OT https://twitter.com/markxdavies/status/492437873518710785

Anonymous said...

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/summersandswan/status/506507741033402368

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1r9EtDi

How cozy.

Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent, Sky News
I’'ve worked with Miriam in her various roles over many years and have always found her a delight to deal with. She understands what I need and does her best to provide it, whether it’s video, stills, an interview, information or, simply, advice and background briefing.

http://bit.ly/1l325Jx

Himself said...

Cosy to the point of incestual. They all seem to be linked somewhere along the line, no matter who they are.

Right so! I shall have a wander around twitter.

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/kikoratton/status/463310185969119233/photo/1
Nonsense, it's Matthew Oldfield on the left and Russel O’Brien on the right.


https://twitter.com/kikoratton/status/461592125117718529/photo/1

It could be Gerry’s handwriting, but if so there could also be an explanation. Gerry took that girl together with Madeleine to the crèche, just to make friends. I don’t think Madeleine was an easy child, but that’s only based on intuition, tha knows.


I don’t agree with the falsified crèche records and the pre-planned theory as I’ve seen not one single proof of that, but then I haven’t read everything, not by a long chalk. The only proven liar in black and white is Kate McCann having it down on paper in her book.


https://twitter.com/kikoratton/status/444901542085156864
(w_nicht always makes me smile)

As for the Murat thing (Bennett’s obsession and main objective), nothing to do with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, separate issues I think, but an issue nevertheless.


Only my opinion: M died due to Kate’s action. Gerry is the abductor. The abduction was a one-man’s action, because, I think, no one is willing to take such risk, unless that person(s) contributed to Madeleine’s death (based on my assumption it has to do with her health and all those medics being present there and medics prior to that holiday. What’s in her medical records?

Any helper had/has vested interests. The question is what interests. Is there a common theme?


Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/Randomleigh1/status/507585700762370048

Please visit >> findmadeleine.com for all the latest relevant info regarding the abduction of #MadeleineMcCann #McCann PLS RT ❤️

RTd by Summers & Swan, Jasmine, Joseph O’Driscoll and PleaseIWantToDie

Need I say more?

Himself said...

LOL He's a bugger.

Anonymous said...

Summers & Swan ‏@summersandswan
Thank you. Nice to get a message not full of hate!

Would you believe it, these two people are Pulitzer Prize Finalists.


https://twitter.com/dhazontrad/status/509407192957857792

@summersandswan Nobody hates you. Actually feel sorry for you, your previous good rep thrown away to cosy up to the two liars #McCann

-------------------------------------

8 December 2013

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/stephen-ward-wasnt-murdered-i-was-there-8990737.html

Summers's interviews on this well publicised theory, published by two reputable national newspapers last week, brim with weasel words. "The story ends with a question mark," says Summers darkly. No it doesn't.

Himself said...

No and yes.
Normally no I wouldn't.
I'm no wonk when it comes to the Pulitzer, but from what I have learned of late, it could be held in the same esteem as the Nobel Peace Prize.

And t'other thing, interesting shall we say?

Anonymous said...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R1VR2KNXE8NQ8A/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R1VR2KNXE8NQ8A

Anonymous said...

By Barbara Williams "Brit" (Australia)
This review is from: Looking For Madeleine (Hardcover)

I would give you a zero star if possible. Have you two sold your souls to the devil? Disgusting and disgraceful.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/147221160X/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Himself said...

Two reviews, this is t'other.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R3OKWK20194OLO/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R3OKWK20194OLO

Himself said...

Mornin' Chuck.

I may do a review of "about this book" in pictures yet. I shall see how they turn out.

Anonymous said...

Good morning H

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=673728392723298&id=108905915872218

Yes, this has turned into a circus.

Summers and Swan, biggest fan:
the irrepressible Pamela Gurney.

...it is plain to see the nature of the beast...

Poor Madeleine.

Himself said...

Not before breakfast Chuck. Blah blah.

Anonymous said...

http://amzn.to/X2slrR
LOL

Himself said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Is This Turning Into a Circus?":

http://amzn.to/X2slrR
LOL


Comment not showing, but I got the email. And I'm glad I did.

LOL sign off.

pamelag says:
Blinkered and biased Vten in your endeavour to support Amaral and his book of lies. I've no more time to discuss this now.

But who is this man? What a writer!

I have saved all that is worthy from the comments, whether I do anything with it, I don't know? But no matter what, it's classic stuff.

I haven't opened your Rich Planet link, I'm actually over there as I write, watching more of Dr Judy Wood. 9/11

Later Chuck.

Anonymous said...

How cosy!

https://twitter.com/summersandswan/status/511505966383505408


May 14, 2011

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/richard-and-judy/246585/Madeleine-McCann-A-tragic-tale-with-still-no-end-in-sight

We happened to meet the McCanns on Thursday at ITV’s Daybreak studios and told them that we agreed about the deceptive proximity of apartment and dining area.


How deceptive!


Anonymous said...

Desperate times ...

http://bit.ly/1uDWzxN

RTd by Pippa, wicatty [uppercase hyphen person] and Summers & Swan

Would you believe it H, it’s beyond insane. M

Himself said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Is This Turning Into a Circus?":

Desperate times ...

http://bit.ly/1uDWzxN

RTd by Pippa, wicatty [uppercase hyphen person] and Summers & Swan

Would you believe it H, it’s beyond insane. M


It's a good job I get the emails Chuck, because some of this stuff your finding is priceless.

Not least the last JG thing, it stopped me looking foolish. Thank you.

You can't have people like this in the Netherlands surely? It has to be an English thing?

Maybe failure is due to too many comments Maren? Time perhaps to set up a new dump. In fact I'll do that now.

Himself said...

RTd

And Rebecca & wiccaty.

No more on this thread Chuck, until I have had a clear out.