Saturday, November 16, 2013

"The 'pyjamas' have always bothered me"

"The 'pyjamas' have always bothered me."

I quote the researcher and compiler of this quite extraordinary piece of research. And it is, as anybody who has ever undertaken such a task would readily agree, not least me. I do know the time and effort that goes into projects such as this. So to researcher and compiler, Maren, from The Netherlands, a more than well deserved tip of the hat.

 "The 'pyjamas' have always bothered me."  I know the feeling well, only with me it is the "Jemmied Shutters" that weren't and the "Curtains" that have been both open, closed, and depending on which McCann version of events you read, flapping in the wind; or not. (The Window: Kate McCann's Red Herring)

I won't take up much more of your time, but I have to reiterate a question that I have asked on more than a few previous occasions. (Bottom of page)

Had the McCanns shall we say, been suspected of robbing a Post Office, and given such contradictory testaments, as we know them to have done; just how far do you think they would have got?

Testaments, not just contradictory, but on many occasions, diametrically opposite to what had been uttered previously by this scurrilous pair.

Conflicting testaments, not just overlooked by the police, I have to say, but totally ignored. And one cannot help but ask the question, why? It is after all, the fate of a three year old we are talking about here, not the unauthorised withdrawal of a few money tokens, from our aforementioned Post Office.

What we must never loose sight of, are the "Jemmied Shutters" that weren't. The cornerstone on which the McCann's built their argument for "stranger abduction" was the jemmied shutters. No jemmied shutters, no abduction. It's that simple.


Introduction

May 3/4, 2007. It starts with white pyjamas.

Kate and Gerry McCann called family and friends.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id28.html

October 14, 2013. It ends with long-sleeved white pyjamas,
as witnessed by Aoife Smith and which can be seen in BBC1 reconstruction, October 14, 2013.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok
(at the 23:56 mark)

In the meantime, for more than six years, the world is overdosed and brainwashed with Eeyore’s white bottoms with a floral pattern and a frill at the end, and a short-sleeved pink top. Backed up by Jane Tanner’s sighting, as far as a man carrying a child and the pyjama bottoms is concerned.

It is almost as if we had to look for Eeyore pyjamas instead of a real, living and findable little girl.

http://gerrymccannsblogs.info/2009/03/message-from-gerry-and-kate-2/

Mathew Oldfield, the most malleable of the group ("get down to reception and see what’s happening with the police!") and Jane Tanner, the most vulnerable, become the foundations of the fairy story. As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.

http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.de/2013/10/light-and-dark.html

Next comments: a sort of pyjamas history.




May 3, 2007

The telephone rang at around 11pm [03 May] at Trish Cameron's home near Glasgow. She picked it up to hear the voice of her younger brother. "He was distraught, breaking his heart," Mrs Cameron said. "He said: 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted.'

...the little girl they had left asleep in her white pyjamas, had disappeared.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/may/05/world.sandralaville#article_continue


May 4, 2007

Jill Renwick, a family friend, told GMTV at 7:45am, on the morning of 04 May, that the distraught parents were certain that Madeleine had been abducted. "They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour."

Speaking to the BBC later, Ms Renwick said ...

Ms Renwick described the missing girl as a "very pretty, very blonde three-year-old". Madeline was said to have been wearing white pyjamas when she went missing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/04/markoliver


May 4, 2007, at 11.15am
Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann

At the time of her disappearance she was wearing pyjamas, the trousers were white with a floral pattern, and the short-sleeved top was predominantly pink and there was a blue and grey figure of a donkey on the front, with the inscription "Eeyore".

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm


May 4, 2007, at 11.30am
Witness statement of Jane Michelle Tanner

About the child whom appeared to be sleeping, she only saw her legs. The child appeared to be older than a baby. She was barefoot and was wearing what appeared to be cotton pyjamas of a light colour (possibly white or light pink). She is not certain, but has the impression a design on the pyjamas, possibly a floral pattern, but she is not certain.

As regards these details, she does not know what Madeleine was wearing at the moment of her disappearance, because she did not talk to anyone about this. As she concerns the man she saw, she only spoke to Gerald about this, not entering into details, and to the police.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER.htm


May 4, 2007, 12:01AM BST
The Telegraph publishes first report of Madeleine's disappearance.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550571/Three-year-old-feared-abducted-in-Portugal.html


May 4, at 14.20am
Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy

At the time of her disappearance, she was wearing pyjamas with white bottoms with a floral pattern. The short-sleeved top, mainly pink with a blue-grey figure of a donkey bearing the inscription, "EEYORE", an inscription which is also on one of the trouser legs. The pyjamas are "Marks and Spencer" brand.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm


May 7, 2007
BBC News

About 50 volunteers have been helping to search the area for signs of the girl, including the clothes she was wearing when she vanished.

Her family confirmed she was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Winnie the Pooh character Eeyore.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6631255.stm


May 8, 2007

The direct appeal was the idea of Mrs McCann and her husband, Gerry, rather than of the Portuguese police. The couple also released a description of the pyjamas Madeleine had been wearing when she was taken as her parents dined at a nearby tapas bar. In contrast to normal British police procedure, Portuguese officers did not issue a description of Madeleine's clothing.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/may/08/ukcrime.madeleinemccann


May 8, 2007
BBC News

Madeleine's family have confirmed she was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Winnie the Pooh character Eeyore when she disappeared.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6635463.stm


May 9, 2007

She was wearing white pyjama bottoms with a small floral design and a short-sleeved pink top with a picture of Eeyore on it when she vanished.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-453659/British-paedophile-links-investigated-Madeleine-hunt.html


May 10, 2007
BBC news
Kevin Bakhurst

We passed on the accurate details of Madeleine's pyjamas, at the family's request, correcting the police's [?] initial description.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/05/avoiding_intrusion.html


May 10, 2007
Items of clothing found locally did not belong to Madeleine, he said. A picture of the pyjamas she was wearing when she vanished has been released.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6644615.stm


May 10, 2007

Some volunteer search teams had been operating under the assumption that Madeleine was wearing white pyjamas, when they were in fact a pink t-shirt with the character Eeyore and white trousers with a small floral pattern.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454029/Search-Madeleine--police-release-pyjamas-wearing.html


May 10, 2007
Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann,

Only about 01h00 on 4 May 2007 did he learn through RUSSELL that his companion, JANE, at 21h10, could have seen an individual crossing the top of the road with a child in his arms, that may or may not have been his daughter MADELEINE. Asked, he relates that he does not recall to have described exactly the type of pyjamas (colour, designs, etc.) that MADELEINE had worn at the time she disappeared.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm


May 10, 2007
Witness statement of Jane M. Tanner

Subsequently, she had no doubts that it could have been MBM because, through conversations with Fiona Payne in which Fiona Payne described the pyjamas that MBM had worn that night, which coincided with those she had seen. Questioned why she had not commented to KH [Kate Healy] what she had seen that night, namely that she had seen a male individual who carried a child with pink pyjamas, she relates that she always avoided making this comment to the McCanns so as not to torture them more in their suffering.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm


May 15, 2007

"Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: 'Maddy's jammies. Where is Maddy?' But she is too young to understand. And how do you explain?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/05/14/1178995077373.html?page=3


May 17, 2007

Many toys have been tied to the railings of the war memorial, including characters from Winnie the Pooh, as Madeleine was wearing Eeyore pyjamas when she disappeared.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/image_galleries/madeleine_mccann_rothley_gallery.shtml?5


May 26, 2007
Witness Aoife Smith

She did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual.

There was nothing covering the child, a comforter/blanket or any other piece of clothing but she only saw her back.

She was wearing light trousers, white or light pink, that may have been pyjamas.

She also had a light top, with long sleeves.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm


June 4, 2007

New Madeleine TV appeal BBC News video
BBC Crimewatch
Recorded in Praia da Luz: 04 June 2007, Televised: 05 June 2007 Transcript by Nigel Moore

Kate McCann: "These are virtually identical to the pyjamas that Madeleine was wearing when she was taken. As you can see it's a pink top, errm... with gathered short sleeves and it has a picture of Eeyore on the front. Errr, the bottoms are white with a... a floral design and have an Eeyore, errm... on the bottom of the right leg."

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id185.html


June 5, 2007

But, of course, the pyjamas she was holding so carefully in her lap were not Madeleine's, but those of Madeleine's younger sister, two-year-old Amelie.

Smiling wanly, Mrs McCann looked down at the pyjamas in her lap and added: "These are virtually identical, but these are little bit smaller because they are Amelie's."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-459927/Madeleine-Exhausted-McCanns-Crimewatch-TV-appeal.html


June 6, 2007
McCanns Appeal for Help in Germany

The McCanns hold up pyjamas similar to those their daughter was wearing the night she was abducted.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/mccanns-appeal-for-help-in-germany-madeleine-s-parents-deny-role-in-abduction-a-487079.html


June 7, 2007
The McCanns hold up a set of pyjamas similar to those worn by Madeleine.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-460119/Madeleine-There-way-involved-abduction-say-parents.html


September 6, 2007, at 3.00pm
Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy

She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pyjama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it out to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; nevertheless the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id192.html#sta6


September 19, 2007

But the McCanns say the fluids probably came from Madeleine's unwashed pyjamas and sandals which were carried in the boot when the family was moving apartments.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddys-mum-why-im-innocent-506983


April 8, 2008
Jane Tanner - Record Of Tape Recorded Interview

So I'd spoken to the GNR Police and then when the PJ came, they came to get me to talk to them to say, to say what, what I'd seen.

01.04.52 4078 "Sorry, was that on the night that Madeleine had disappeared?"
Reply "That was at three o'clock in the morning after she'd disappeared, yeah".

4078 "So when you went into Gerry and Kate's apartment who else was there?"
Reply "I think there was Russ, I think Russell came with me and there was Sylvie who was the translator. I can't remember which, there was some, there was a PJ chap was sitting on the, by the table. And there was Gerry who was standing by the, the bedroom door".

4078 “And how was Gerry at that point?”
Reply “Oh he was just, well obviously, obviously distraught. And I think it was quite hard for me to be saying at that, you know, looking in his face and to be explaining what I’d seen, at that point was quite hard because, you know, Gerry was obviously standing there, I don’t know whether, and you sort of think ‘Oh God, here’s me, if I’d tried to stop them this wouldn’t have happened’ sort of thing.

I think, just going back a bit, over again, this is something, I think when I realised the true significance of what I’d seen as well was almost like a couple of days afterwards when, erm, erm, I was talking to Fi about the pyjamas, because again it seems madness now why I hadn’t asked Kate and Gerry before this what the pyjamas were like, but it’s all sort of rha rha, you know, so I didn’t know what, what Madeleine’s pyjamas were before this. And I’d actually read in a paper that they were white, it was in the Telegraph, I think it was the day afterwards Dianne had bought a Telegraph paper and in there it was saying she was wearing plain white pyjamas, so I think when I read that I almost thought ‘Oh maybe I have got it wrong’, you know, because I’d, out of everything, I thought ‘Oh they weren’t just plain white’, I thought they had got some sort of thing on it. So I think it might have actually been the next morning, which would probably be the Saturday morning, I think I said something to, about oh, to Fi ‘Oh what were the pyjamas like’ and she actually described the pyjamas and she sort of said ‘Oh no that is what they were like’. And that was, I think that was almost the moment when I couldn’t convince myself anymore that it wasn’t that, you know.

“With, with a turn up, and the turn up I mean I can’t stress this enough, that is the bit that makes me think so much that it is the same pyjamas.”

“Okay, so you think it was pink but you accept that it may not have been, the colour may have been distorted or it might have been such the power of suggestion I suppose.”
Jane Tanner: “That could have been that for me because the pyjamas I really tried to, it was in the interview the next day when they really pushed me you know I think you call it cognitive interview or whatever, really pushed me to get an idea of you know more details about the person and it was then that you know sort of the description of the pyjamas was more in my head than I’d initial, it was mainly the feet as an initial thing.

“Yes. I think the point they’re trying to make is that you had no knowledge of what Madeleine was supposed to have been wearing when you gave that description”?
Reply “No I think, no because when, I wasn’t there at the table when Kate gave a you know, I think Kate gave everybody else, when she came, you know when everyone was looking for her, they had a description of what to look for but I wasn’t, I was in the room at that point so no I definitely didn’t know what she’d, and I’d never seen her in pyjamas, I’ve never seen Madeleine in pyjamas at home and or anywhere so”.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm 


April 11, 2008

RECORD OF TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW DAVID PAYNE

you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour

And really didn’t think twice about it at the time and that’s why it wasn’t mentioned then. But she [Jane Tanner] definitely mentioned it to me you know after Madeleine had been abducted and you know on the, the following day before she’d actually mentioned it to Kate and there was a, a newspaper report, I think it was in the Telegraph err certainly one of the newspapers anyway, that was sort of describing err Madeleine’s pyjamas and, and err Jane said that’s not right, how did they get that, well she said you know, that in, I don’t know how they get that information anyway, my recollections were this was what she was wearing and described it you know differently you know to what the, the, the press had, and that was before she’d even seen Kate so you know, the strength of that argument is just absolutely overwhelming, you know given the time frame err you know of when Madeleine must have gone, gone, that you know and for her to have described in detail the pull ups at the bottom of the pyjamas err you know the colours, you know and the timing is just, you know well, so.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm


 April 30, 2008

Mrs McCann stayed in a bedroom praying. She said: It was really cold. I knew what pyjamas she had on and I just thought she’s going to be freezing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/1908158/Madeleine-McCann-left-alone-as-last-minute-decision.html


2009 and 2010
No pyjamas?


 May 7, 2011

In extracts printed by The Sun, she tells of how windy it was, and says she kept imagining how cold Madeleine would be in her short-sleeved Eeyore pyjamas, and wishing she’d had her warmer Barbie pyjamas on.

http://dailym.ai/iWtyc1


May 8, 2011

I ran out into the car park of our holiday apartment, flying from end to end, yelling desperately: 'Madeleine! Madeleine!' It was so cold and so windy. I kept picturing her in her short-sleeved Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas and feeling how chilled she would be.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/may/08/madeleine-maccann-mother-suicidal-thoughts


May 8, 2011

As everyone started to search she ran into the car park shouting Madeleine’s name. She added: “It was so cold and windy. I kept picturing her in her short-sleeved Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas and feeling how chilled she would be. Fear was shearing through my body.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-little-brother-promises-127306


May 9, 2011

Her final few minutes with Madeleine are forever etched in her memory.

Madeleine, in her Marks & Spencer Eeyore pyjamas, nuzzling her toy Cuddle Cat beneath a ‘princess’ blanket ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1384977/Kate-McCanns-haunting-account-makes-rue-day-I-doubted-them.html


May 9, 2011
Published in The Sun

Although Jane had never seen or known about Madeleine's Eeyore pyjamas, her description of this child's night clothes matched Madeleine's almost exactly.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/49may11/SUN1_09_05_2011.htm


May 12, 2011
In book Madeleine by Kate McCann.

"The police did not appear to feel that Jane’s sighting in Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva and the man and child reported by the Irish holidaymakers in Rua da Escola Primaria were related. They seem to have concluded that these were in all likelihood two different men carrying two different children (if, they implied, these two men actually existed at all). The only reason for their skepticism appeared to be an unexplained time lapse between the two sightings. They didn’t dovetail perfectly. To me, the similarities seem far more significant than any discrepancy in timing".

"(…remember – Jane’s description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements), I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts.


May 16, 2011

The only other unexplained detail I remember from that morning was a large, brown stain I noticed on Madeleine's pink Eeyore pyjama top. It looked like a tea stain.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/a-familys-never-ending-ordeal/story-e6frg6z6-1226056322286


May 17, 2011

I didn't think of it at the time but the day Madeleine disappeared I noticed what I thought was a tea stain on her Disney pyjama top,' she says. 'I washed it without thinking but looking back, the children hadn’t drunk any tea that day and I can't remember her mentioning that she'd spilt anything.'

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/49may11/WOMAN_17_05_2011.htm


 June 21, 2011
Interview McCanns in the Netherlands

At the 1:19 mark

Question: He kept the child in his arms?

Kate McCann answers: He was carrying the child [Gerry tries to interrupt] across his arms, like this. You would think he might carry the child ... the shoulder, but he was carrying the child like this.

Gerry McCann: Jane didn’t know what Madeleine was wearing ...
She also described the pyjamas, ... remarkably similar... and she didn’t know that, and another really key thing is, later on that evening, probably about forty minutes later, an Irish family saw a man and they gave an almost identical description of the man and the child.

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2011/exclusief-interview-met-kate-mccann


 March 25, 2012
ANOTHER STORY
By Dr Martin Roberts

But whoever it was that members of the Smith family actually saw being carried, it could not have been Madeleine McCann in her Eeyore pyjamas. The child seen by Aoife Smith was said to have been wearing a long-sleeved top. If one is prepared to accept that Jane Tanner can discern the colour of a garment from some distance away, in the dark, when she cannot even see the item in question, then it is even more reasonable to accept the accuracy of Aoife Smith's close-up description.


August 23, 2012
'OUT, DAMN'D SPOT'
By Dr Martin Roberts

Kate's transient preoccupation with those Eeyore pyjamas may have been indicative of nothing more than a concern for 'keeping up appearances,

And then, irony of ironies, with Kate having made a special point of washing out a seemingly innocuous stain, the pyjamas are abducted, never to be seen again.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id400.html


May 24, 2013

Madeleine was wearing pink pyjamas, with an Eeyore motif, on the night she was taken from apartment 5a on the ground floor of the Waterside Gardens at the Ocean Club complex.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330660/Madeleine-McCann-Was-Maddie-snatched-monster-killed-little-lookalike-British-detectives-uncover-dramatic-new-lead--Portuguese-refusing-investigate.html


July 8, 2013
By Dr Martin Roberts
NO WAY OUT

He could not, therefore did not, exit the apartment with a child in his arms in the two or three minutes between Gerry McCann's last 'check' on the children and Jane Tanner's 'sighting'. Nor did he leave the apartment afterwards, carrying Madeleine past the Smiths. The child they witnessed was wearing the wrong pyjamas. And since the intending abductor was not discovered inside the apartment subsequently then he was not there at all.

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t23969-dr-martin-roberts-no-way-out-with-thanks-to-mccannfilescom


 October 15, 2013

'Revelation moment': Police revealed a major breakthrough when a British father came forward to reveal he was the man who for six years had been considered the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case.

Evidence: The girl seen at 9.15pm wore distinctive pyjamas and the prime suspect also brought these to police to prove his innocence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460669/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapping-innocent-British-father-mistaken-key-suspect.html


October 15, 2013

We know the pyjamas their child was wearing… We are almost certain this [Tanner] sighting isn’t the abductor. - Detective Chief Inspector Redwood

http://www.thestar.ie/star/irish-couples-vital-clue-in-maddie-hunt-34798/


October 15, 2013

The potential prime suspect is described as white, in his 30s, of medium build and height, clean shaven with short brown hair. He was carrying a child aged three or four who had blonde hair and was wearing pyjamas similar to Madeleine’s.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/436799/MADDIE-Are-police-closer-to-breakthrough-after-overwhelming-response-to-Crimewatch


November 15 2013 Final Comment

The McCanns altered the Smith sighting carrying style so as to match that of the Tanner sighting, in a McCann made reconstruction aired only a few days after Amaral's (in which he included the Smith sighting).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY
from 6:36: watch "Smith" man carrying a child horizontally across his arms.


Did the McCanns also alter the pyjamas style so as to discredit the Smith sighting (girl in white, long-sleeved, pyjamas) as soon as they became aware of Jane Tanner’s sighting early morning May 4, after they had already texted and phoned family and friends.

Gerry knew that he was seen by the Smith family.

Jane, unknowingly at that time, gave Gerry McCann a perfect alibi. Just one small problem, the pyjamas.

If not, then who is that girl in white long-sleeved pyjamas in BBC1 documentary, October 14, 2013?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok
(at the 23:56 mark)


Not the "Tanner" pyjamas, then also not the "Eeyore’s"?

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8428/7bs2.jpg


http://twitpic.com/7hz4rr

Answers on a postcard please.

Compiled by Maren, The Netherlands









44 comments:

Anonymous said...

MADELEINE IS SPOTTED ALL OVER THE WORLD

From the moment Madeleine's photo is circulated in the media, her presence is reported to us from all over the place. In Portugal first of all, then in Spain and in Morocco, then all over Europe and even in Latin America, like a circle getting a bit wider every day, whose centre is Vila da Luz.

Almost simultaneously, she is in Zurich and on the corner of a Rio de Janeiro street...Faced with this tidal wave, rules have to be established, because it's impossible for us to check everything. So, the local police have to check the veracity of the witness statements and take all necessary measures: viewing CCTV images, lifting fingerprints, DNA profiles...From May 11th the Moroccan saga gets going. A Norwegian woman who lives in the south of Spain allegedly recognised Madeleine in a service station in Marrakesh. From then on, the greatest number of witness statements come to us from Morocco and, bizarrely, each time someone states that they saw Madeleine, she is always in pyjamas and bare feet.

http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.nl/search?updated-max=2009-06-19T07:55:00-07:00&max-results=1

Anonymous said...

The detailed images of the face of the man seen by the Smith family were never released by the McCanns. But an artist’s impression of the man seen earlier by Tanner was widely promoted, even though the face had to be left blank because she had only seen him fleetingly and from a distance.

http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2013/10/madeleine-mccann-no-stone-unturned.html

An artist’s impression of the man seen earlier by Tanner was widely promoted, because our focus should be on the "Eeyore" pyjama bottoms with a floral pattern and a frill at the end, and on "Tanner" man's carrying style.

Also, take note of the pink coloured top http://twitpic.com/7hz4rr
How subtle.


Martin Smith recognised Gerry McCann's carrying style, a man carrying a child that was lying against his left shoulder, in a vertical position.

http://twitpic.com/74jnhg

Aofi Smith also witnessed a child lying against the man's left shoulder. That child was wearing light trousers, white or light pink, that may have been pyjamas, and a light top, with long sleeves.


Anonymous said...

Elaboration Also, take note of the pink coloured top http://twitpic.com/7hz4rr How subtle, in previous comment:

Jane Tanner only saw the child's legs, mainly the feet as an initial thing.

Himself said...

Tell it to the cops.

But not the head of the boy's club. Nor the non-blinking alien.

Good day Maren.

I don't want to get involved with twitter just yet, I'm determined to do a job that I have been promising to do for ages.

What it is, is of no interest to you, and as you might gather, not much interest for me either.

Later then Chuck, later.

Anonymous said...

Addition "pyjamas history".

May 27, 2007

The McCanns still cling to the hope that their daughter is still in Portugal, which is why they intend to keep their base in the country. And when they moved to an apartment near to the one from which Madeleine was abducted, they unpacked their missing daughter's clothes, too, laying out her pyjamas on what would have been her bed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1552763/Were-not-going-back-without-Madeleine.html


Sep 19, 2007

But the McCanns say the fluids probably came from Madeleine's unwashed pyjamas and sandals which were carried in the boot when the family was moving apartments.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nappies-flip-flops-30-people-507170


A BEDTIME STORY
By Dr Martin Roberts
22 November 2013

What unwashed pyjamas?

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

Himself said...

Hello Chuck. I'm not long in, but I did have a wander through the article and the McCannfiles for that matter, though not much new. Nothing new from Blacksmith at least, and he's always a good read, I think you would agree.

I think Martin Roberts should have been a cop, he's a bugger for the details.

We used to correspond quite regularly during the time I was immersed in the case. I suppose I shall drop him a line before Christmas and see what's cooking.

Not much to report m'darlin', as I said, I've been out all day.

Just one thing to do before I have an hour on iplayer, and that is move that bloody tattoo post down the page a little. Why I didn't think to do that this morning, I don't know. Not the brightest bulb on the tree, first thing in the morning.

Will be on twitter later I guess.

Lizard love. xx

Anonymous said...

Inventory of pyjamas owned and/or worn by Madeleine McCann between April 29 and May 3, 2007 therefore:

Three pairs - one unpacked (presumed clean), one soiled, one abducted after washing.

Three pairs of pyjamas for a week’s holiday? It won’t wash. Nor could Kate get the machine in 5A to do so.


A BEDTIME STORY
By Dr Martin Roberts

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

Anonymous said...

A whole new meaning to 'whitewash'.

Anonymous said...

from: THE ILLUSIONISTS
By Dr Martin Roberts
11 December 2013

The fact that the child seen by the Smiths was wearing long-sleeved pyjamas would seem to rule out the 'Madeleine McCann alive in the arms of a stranger' option, so maybe Kate McCann was right. Maybe Madeleine would have been better off had she been wearing her long-sleeved 'Barbie' ones.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

Checkmate Kate, your king can't go anywhere. NL


http://bit.ly/1dcZqnn

Why still on?

Because:

http://dailym.ai/JiEYZ9
http://bit.ly/1bDUuFf

to show a few.


You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool ALL of the people ALL of the time. - Abraham Lincoln


Himself said...


Good day my lovely, all noted thank you.

Something else noted from further down the page. LOL


"I am only a humble tool of God and I can also be mistaken," the clairvoyant said cautiously.

http://twitpic.com/djfplk

Which I think I might send to lars.


Anonymous said...

For the archives

https://twitter.com/arenverm/status/411401657532948480/photo/1

Anonymous said...

"Every time I read these independent statements in the files (and neither could have been influenced by the other, remember – Jane's description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements), I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts." (p. 328, Madeleine by Kate McCann)

Which parts might they be – Adult male carrying young girl? What about the man's short versus long hair, travelling West versus East, or holding a seemingly dormant child wearing a long-sleeved top vertically, as opposed to cradling one in short-sleeves horizontally? Do such details not matter then?

BROUGHT TO BOOK
By Dr Martin Roberts
17 December 2013
http://mccannfiles.com/id232.html


Himself said...

Thanks Maren, I caught up with Blacksmith too, while I was there.

Anonymous said...

Why is Jane Tanner’s "Crècheman", an innocent British father, still being used?

19 December 2013:

http://www.findmadeleine.com/campaigns/unidentified_people.html

Unidentified People of Interest to the Inquiry


Unidentified?

15 October 2013:

'Revelation moment': Police revealed a major breakthrough when a British father came forward to reveal he was the man who for six years had been considered the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460669/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapping-innocent-British-father-mistaken-key-suspect.html


Update picture for the McCanns’ Monitor:

https://twitter.com/arenverm/status/411401657532948480/photo/1

in case he/she stumbles upon the blog.

Himself said...

Good morning Maren.

I'm glad you posted the Mail link, because not least, I had asked the present day McCann wonks, some few weeks ago, just when the "British father" had come forward, and who held the knowledge of this supposed person.

To a person, the replies were, he hadn't, Redwood was still looking for him.

It could of course be the Mail getting it wrong, as they have got everything else wrong about this case.

I shall enquire via twitter.

And yes, some things are better left untranslated, Helesher indeed.

Anonymous said...

ON SALE NOW!!!

http://bit.ly/1drwTfW

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1nGVWmI

a distinctive burgundy long-sleeved top

How ironic.

Well, it was a beautiful day, wasn’t it H. Work is well in hand, but it’s a slow job.

Later m’dear, later. Mx

Anonymous said...


http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/26/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

26 October 2007

The artist has not been named, but she was described by the McCanns' spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, as an FBI-trained specialist. Mr Mitchell said the artist left the picture incomplete where Jane Tanner could not be certain of details to ensure accuracy.

That’s not true, the picture shows a pink pyjamas top. Jane Tanner did not see the top of the pyjamas, she saw the bottom of the pyjamas and the feet of the child.


Panorama - Mystery of Madeleine McCann - Nov 19/2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqoj-pfBUnY

At the 11:06 mark:

Richard Bilton: Describe exactly what he's carrying, what you could see.

Jane Tanner: Well I could see.. I could tell it was a child, and I could see the feet and... the feet and the bottom of the pyjamas, and I just thought that child's not got any shoes on because you could see the feet...

Anonymous said...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/26/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

"[The picture] gives an idea of the man's general appearance, his size, his shape and his bearing. We believe that this is potentially the last definitive sighting of Madeleine," he said. The release of the images, commissioned by private detectives working for the McCanns, was given the "tacit approval" of Portuguese police, Mr Mitchell said.

Not true, the last definitive sighting was the Smiths sighting of a man carrying a child lying in a vertical position against the man’s left shoulder. The child was wearing a long sleeved white top.

Anonymous said...

http://unterdenteppichgekehrt.blogspot.nl/2014/05/maddies-jammies.html?spref=tw

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1m9RiHn

Anonymous said...

4 May 2007

Portuguese police yesterday sealed off the three-storey block and forensic specialists fingerprinted the ground floor window of the McCanns' apartment. All airports, ports and border posts have been alerted.

But despite a massive search throughout the night by police, sniffer dogs and dozens of holidaymakers, there has been no sign of Madeleine, wearing white pyjamas when her parents put her to bed with twins Amelie and Sean in the bougainvillea-clad apartment.


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/maddy-was-abducted-and-we-have-a-suspect-in-mind-6579837.html

She [Jill Renwick] said Madeleine - known as Maddy - was 'gorgeous, active and chatty and intelligent, not shy. She is four next week and starts school this year.'

Family friend Mrs Renwick said the McCanns - who met while training at the Western Infirmary at Glasgow - felt let down by police.

"I spoke to them this morning and they said the police had done nothing overnight and they felt as if they'd been left on their own."


There you have it, the heartbroken parents, despicable liars.

Anonymous said...

The British priest, Paul Seddon, whom Kate called in the early hours, recalled trying to calm her by saying that “Madeleine could have had a bout of sleepwalking and that she would be all right. I remember that Kate was worried by the fact that Madeleine was wearing short-sleeved pyjamas and could catch a cold.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11082514/Did-Madeleine-wander-off.html


K #mccann, who "knew" M had been abducted told priest she was worried Maddie might catch cold coz she had short sleeve pyjamas on!

https://twitter.com/13OTF/status/509250557518053377


Kate McCann suggesting M alive in short sleeves.

M dead in long sleeves?, to be honest.

Anonymous said...

Kate McCann’s text is clearly visible as a work with a single purpose: deception.

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/beginning-middle-and-end-mccann-way.html

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/UnterdenTeppich/status/511103366882414592

Himself said...

Noted. As is the new wallpaper. LOL

Anonymous said...

Well spotted.

https://twitter.com/emma8818/status/508962475614961664

#mccann Kate Mccann says here are 14.15 that Tanner saw a bare armed girl http://youtu.be/xNI5up44Nho did Tanner ever say this?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqoj-pfBUnY

At the 11:06 mark:

Richard Bilton: Describe exactly what he's carrying, what you could see.

Jane Tanner: Well I could see.. I could tell it was a child, and I could see the feet and... the feet and the bottom of the pyjamas, and I just thought that child's not got any shoes on because you could see the feet...

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/beemmjay2011/status/522839227671654400

Anonymous said...

May 5, 2014

But despite a massive search throughout the night by police, sniffer dogs and dozens of holidaymakers, there has been no sign of Madeleine, wearing white pyjamas when her parents put her to bed with twins Amelie and Sean in the bougainvillea-clad apartment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-452633/Maddy-abducted-suspect-mind.html

Anonymous said...

Correction.

Previous comment (info), that should read May 5, 2007, of course.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syT8jy1ZN5k

1:30 The pyjamas.

Anonymous said...

http://littlemorsals.blogspot.nl/2015/01/is-reconsideration-dirty-word.html

My thoughts exactly (without reconsideration). Mx

I thought I saw pink pyjamas and I thought I could see colours, but I don't know, it was fairly orange so I don't know. With a turn-up.

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April 8, 2008
Jane Tanner - Record Of Tape Recorded Interview

So I'd spoken to the GNR Police and then when the PJ came, they came to get me to talk to them to say, to say what, what I'd seen.

01.04.52 4078 "Sorry, was that on the night that Madeleine had disappeared?"

Reply "That was at three o'clock in the morning after she'd disappeared, yeah".

4078 "So when you went into Gerry and Kate's apartment who else was there?"

Reply "I think there was Russ, I think Russell came with me and there was Sylvie who was the translator. I can't remember which, there was some, there was a PJ chap was sitting on the, by the table. And there was Gerry who was standing by the, the bedroom door".

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/aacg/status/563075477162954753

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/MrsWaspie/status/580092734842773506

I've always wondered what clothes she'd worn on 3rd May. Is that known? Or was she "abducted" in these clothes?

Just thoughts. M

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/1LTfoIB

Kate just thought she's going to be freezing.

How revealing. M

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/beemmjay2011/status/638785744333631488

Anonymous said...

Martin Brunt

http://www.bjr.org.uk/data/2007/no4_brunt

"The Portuguese police are another lot who don't want to tell anyone what they are up to. Okay, they have a judicial secrecy law, but should that have stopped them making public appeals for help in tracing a missing three-yearold? A news conference was an alien concept to the beleaguered detectives searching for Madeleine McCann, but they were eventually badgered into one. It ended in chaos, live of course, and we learned very little from it. The McCann family themselves had to issue pictures of their daughter and the pyjamas she was wearing on the night she disappeared. I have as many police contacts in Portugal as I have on Jupiter, so this was always going to be a tricky one, but you would expect to make some progress with the local cops over a glass of Mateus Rose. Yet all attempts were met with a rebuff, usually accompanied by the chewing of a moustache, the shaking of a head and the wagging of a finger (try doing all that at once). I got the message."

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May 10, 2007

BBC news
Kevin Bakhurst

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/05/avoiding_intrusion.html

"We passed on the accurate details of Madeleine's pyjamas, at the family's request, correcting the police's initial description."

Anonymous said...

...who is that girl in white long-sleeved pyjamas in BBC1 documentary, October 14, 2013?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok

Whooshed.

Another link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ8jmdWlB8Y

at the 23:56 mark

Anonymous said...

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

1485 "How did she describe the child to you"

Reply "Err, the, from, again my, my recollection was more about the, the description of the pyjamas not fitting in with the description of the newspaper and if I was to say that she was carrying the child you know like this, rather than like, like that then, you know because again this is something that we've talked about, you know, if she was abducted, you know, sorry if you were carrying your own child any distance, to actually carry a child like so is, it's hard work. You know, it's much easier to carry a child like this and it's easier to keep them asleep and support their head etcetera. So yeah that's something we've chatted about since and you know I could say oh yes I'm a hundred percent sure she said that, that they were carrying the child like that, but I, again, I wouldn't be, be accurate. All I can say is accurately I remember there was a, the err the discrepancy with the pyjamas and that, you know, and then she kept coming back to the turn ups which you know, which is very unique about the err you know, the pyjamas so that was, you know, you're in shock, you can't believe what's happened, you know, you're, you're ninety nine, point nine, nine, nine percent sure that this is what's happened but you're still not wanting to believe what's happened."

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It isn't hard work if the carrying distance concerned a short distance. Also, you don't have to keep a child asleep if it is awake.

Just ask - the in the opposite direction walking - Crecheman or Operation Grange for that matter. Mx


Anonymous said...

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EMMA-LOUISE.htm

"I was told who the missing girl was and at the beginning of the procedure went to the McCann's apartment to obtain the girl's description and of the clothes she was wearing when she disappeared. When I arrived at the apartment, there was a lady on the terrace, whom I now know to be Kate McCann, accompanied by the wife of one of her friends, David Payne. Kate could not say a word, looked very upset and about to cry. It was Mrs Payne who provided me with the details that I needed.

I returned to the location where the leaflets were being distributed and passed on the information that I had gathered about the missing girl. Lyndsey was busy with the distribution of the leaflets and I went to search in the beach area. On my return I passed by the Duke Pub where I met other members of staff who also joined in the searches."


Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHbZVBE7fos

Anonymous said...

Press conference on June 6, 2007 in Berlin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ3ForLXJT0

Anonymous said...

@9 September 2015 at 08:45

http://www.bjr.org.uk/data/2007/no4_brunt
(not available, only by subscription)

Webcache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YDuiJm6t_RcJ:www.bjr.org.uk/data/2007/no4_brunt+&cd=1&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Anonymous said...

28 Apr 2008

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/madeleine/1096610/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-and-Gerry-McCanns-search-for-daughter-Maddie-a-year-after-she-disappeared.html

"Further errors eroded the McCanns’ confidence in the investigation. With police keeping silent about any leads to avoid alerting suspects, Kate and Gerry were forced of their own accord to invite TV crews to their apartment to broadcast an appeal for information.

It was THEY, not police, who decided to release details of the pink and white Eeyore pyjamas Madeleine was wearing."