BW is here drawing attention to the fact that the persons said to have been responsible for the 7/7 London bombings were previously known in some capacity to MI5. The question this raises in my mind is quite why, in consideration of 'police efficiency', BW should draw for his example on events involving the British secret service? It's not exactly a 'like-for-like' comparison.
A suspicious person (non tourist, non resident) seen in PdL making long phone calls from a quiet area. He was seen, repeatedly, during the two weeks (or so) prior to the "disappearance", though not during the final 2-3 days of that period.
I can't help wondering if he appeared in the background of any photos!!
(When offering assistance on May 3rd the witness, despite being bilingual, was directed to the beach....by "Dave".)
“They went to the OC [May 3, 23.30/24.00] where they spoke to an English P da L resident called Dave who explained to them what had happened and suggested to the witness and his boss that they search the beach area, having described the girl and what she was wearing to them."
[May 4, the following morning] ... ”We walked back along the path that I had taken to Gerry's apartment and I explained that Robert spoke Portuguese fluently, he told Gerry that it was important to have someone who spoke the language so that nothing would be lost in translation.. And that was how Robert Murat was presented as a translator.
SC: After he left, he explained that Gerry was frustrated with the way in which the case was being handled and they went to talk to John Hill.
DCF: Yes..
SC: In Mark Warner and he asked that all the Mark Warner rooms be opened so that he could check them and asked the cleaning ladies etc. to help open all the empty apartments that were not necessarily in the Mark Warner complex, but for which they might have the keys. At this moment I also met an English man called Dave who lived in the area and helped the Ocean Club to authorise entry into all the apartments possible, some of the apartments in Gerry's block belonged to local owners and Dave helped to get the keys to these apartments so that they could check them and search them, they checked them all in a general manner.”
That makes for an interesting contrast in their respective treatments. "Dave" was certainly well briefed!
And the "Unknown" that Maraios saw behaving suspiciously fits the CEOP window of interest to the letter: present in PdL for 2 weeks, last seen on (or around) April the 30th!
Back in Britain, police said today that they had received 330 photos and 755 phone calls from the public in response to Monday's appeal for people who had been in Praia da Luz in the two weeks before Madeleine's disappearance to send any snaps that portrayed any individuals they thought looked "out of place" or suspicious.
15 October 2013
330 calls into the Operation Grange incident room!
He [Senior investigating officer Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood] said: "We have now had over 730 calls and 212 emails as a direct result of the specific lines of inquiry we issued yesterday concerning events in the lead-up to, and on the night of Thursday May 3 2007 when Madeleine was abducted - 330 calls into the Operation Grange incident room, 400 to BBC1 Crimewatch.
330 calls from the owners of the photographs, wondering why they haven’t heard anything after they have sent their pictures?
Thanks so much, a brilliant "spot". These numbers just keep falling into place.
It has to be reasonable to assume that people would want to pursue the fate of their uploaded photos - particularly having been subjected to years of propaganda about supposed failings of the PJ.
I'd never thought of that possibility; but yes, had I been in PdL, and had I sufficient concern about someone as to go through that upload procedure, then of course I would make the call: "I'm concerned...was anything done...I still have the jpg?"
Two appeals, one demographic = same outcome....330?!
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BW is here drawing attention to the fact that the persons said to have been responsible for the 7/7 London bombings were previously known in some capacity to MI5. The question this raises in my mind is quite why, in consideration of 'police efficiency', BW should draw for his example on events involving the British secret service? It's not exactly a 'like-for-like' comparison.
I'm very much playing catch up at the moment, but the coincidence of this testimony is a little hard to pass over:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ADRIAAN_MARAIOS.htm
A suspicious person (non tourist, non resident) seen in PdL making long phone calls from a quiet area. He was seen, repeatedly, during the two weeks (or so) prior to the "disappearance", though not during the final 2-3 days of that period.
I can't help wondering if he appeared in the background of any photos!!
(When offering assistance on May 3rd the witness, despite being bilingual, was directed to the beach....by "Dave".)
Agnos
@Martin R.
There might be an innocent explanation, but, as you say, not exactly a ‘like-for-like’ comparison.
I don’t know if it is of any interest or known, but, without intent to infringe, BW once lived in the UK.
http://bit.ly/1OJiput
(second comment)
Apart from that, BW’s concluding sentence concerning the July bombers is interesting, and so is the association with the McCann case.
Maren
@Agnos,
Thank you for the link, I hadn’t read it before.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ADRIAAN_MARAIOS.htm
“They went to the OC [May 3, 23.30/24.00] where they spoke to an English P da L resident called Dave who explained to them what had happened and suggested to the witness and his boss that they search the beach area, having described the girl and what she was wearing to them."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm
[May 4, the following morning] ... ”We walked back along the path that I had taken to Gerry's apartment and I explained that Robert spoke Portuguese fluently, he told Gerry that it was important to have someone who spoke the language so that nothing would be lost in translation.. And that was how Robert Murat was presented as a translator.
SC: After he left, he explained that Gerry was frustrated with the way in which the case was being handled and they went to talk to John Hill.
DCF: Yes..
SC: In Mark Warner and he asked that all the Mark Warner rooms be opened so that he could check them and asked the cleaning ladies etc. to help open all the empty apartments that were not necessarily in the Mark Warner complex, but for which they might have the keys. At this moment I also met an English man called Dave who lived in the area and helped the Ocean Club to authorise entry into all the apartments possible, some of the apartments in Gerry's block belonged to local owners and Dave helped to get the keys to these apartments so that they could check them and search them, they checked them all in a general manner.”
(...)
Maren
Hi Maren,
That makes for an interesting contrast in their respective treatments. "Dave" was certainly well briefed!
And the "Unknown" that Maraios saw behaving suspiciously fits the CEOP window of interest to the letter: present in PdL for 2 weeks, last seen on (or around) April the 30th!
Kind regards
Agnos
Agnos,
Concerning the photos, did you know
25 May 2007
330 photos!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/6693091.stm
Back in Britain, police said today that they had received 330 photos and 755 phone calls from the public in response to Monday's appeal for people who had been in Praia da Luz in the two weeks before Madeleine's disappearance to send any snaps that portrayed any individuals they thought looked "out of place" or suspicious.
15 October 2013
330 calls into the Operation Grange incident room!
http://news.stv.tv/west-central/243901-madeleine-mccann-around-1000-calls-after-bbc-crimewatch-appeal/
He [Senior investigating officer Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood] said: "We have now had over 730 calls and 212 emails as a direct result of the specific lines of inquiry we issued yesterday concerning events in the lead-up to, and on the night of Thursday May 3 2007 when Madeleine was abducted - 330 calls into the Operation Grange incident room, 400 to BBC1 Crimewatch.
330 calls from the owners of the photographs, wondering why they haven’t heard anything after they have sent their pictures?
http://web.archive.org/web/20070523085330/http://madeleine.ceopupload.com/faq.aspx
Kind regards,
Maren
Maren,
Thanks so much, a brilliant "spot". These numbers just keep falling into place.
It has to be reasonable to assume that people would want to pursue the fate of their uploaded photos - particularly having been subjected to years of propaganda about supposed failings of the PJ.
I'd never thought of that possibility; but yes, had I been in PdL, and had I sufficient concern about someone as to go through that upload procedure, then of course I would make the call: "I'm concerned...was anything done...I still have the jpg?"
Two appeals, one demographic = same outcome....330?!
Cheers again,
Agnos
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