Other than expanding the text, by way of an introduction, what follows then, is a reader's comment, posted verbatim.
But first, let me borrow a previous observation of mine, a little something to give context to Redwood's drivel.
To assess this case and come come to the only conclusion that one can; that the Doctors McCann are instrumental in the death and disappearance of their daughter, doesn't require great gifts of deduction or intellect, it requires far less; the ability to walk upright and having attained the age of six, is more than sufficient. source
As told by the BBC.
. . . . Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood, who is heading the investigation, said: "The timeline we have now established has given new significance to sightings and movements of people in and around Praia da Luz at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.
"Our work to date has significantly changed the timeline and the accepted version of events that has been in the public domain to date.
"It has allowed us to work with Crimewatch to build the most detailed reconstruction as yet, and highlight very specific appeal points.
"I hope that when the public see our investigative strands drawn together within the overall context of that appeal, it will bring in new information that moves our investigation forward."
DCI Redwood said that police had sought to "try and draw everything back to zero... take everything back to the beginning and then reanalyse and reassess everything, accepting nothing".
Phone records
He added: "The careful and critical analysis of the timeline has been absolutely key. Primarily, we are focused on the area between 8.30pm and 10pm.
"We know that at 8.30, that was the time that Mr and Mrs McCann went down to the tapas area for their dinner, and we know that at around 10pm, that was when Mrs McCann found that Madeleine was missing." BBC
Readers comment verbatim.
He added [DCI Redwood] "The careful and critical analysis of the timeline has been absolutely key. Primarily, we are focused on the area between 8.30pm and 10pm.
"We know that at 8.30, that was the time that Mr and Mrs McCann went down to the tapas area for their dinner, and we know that at around 10pm, that was when Mrs McCann found that Madeleine was missing."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24509235
Not well-informed that man.
The first two Tapas group timelines were written by Russell O’Brien on the ripped off front and back cover of Madeleine’s sticker book, 03/04 May 2007.
Timeline 1
8:45. pm
Matt returns 9.00-9.05 - listened at all 3 - all shutters down
Jerry 9.10-9.15 in the room + all well ? did he check
9.20/5 - Ella Jane checked 5D sees stranger & child
9.30 - Russ. Ella Matt check all 3
9.35 - Matt check see twins
9.50 - Russ returns
9.55 - Kate realised Madeleine
10pm - Alarm raised
Timeline 2
8.45pm. all assembled at poolside for food
9.00pm. Matt Oldfield listens at all 3 windows 5A, B, D ALL shutters down
9:15pm Gerry McCann looks at room A ? Door open to bedroom
9:20pm Jane Tanner checks 5D - [sees stranger walking carrying a child]
9.30 Russell O'Brien in 5D. Poorly daughter
9.55pm
10:00pm. Alarm raised after Kate
Gerald
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id261.html
Still so into each other? Just wondering.
http://twitpic.com/74jgui
Source for the above: Kate McCann's Book To Be Truthful (and Scathing)
Do try to read. Perhaps a taster will help.
I thought I would take this opportunity to bring together on one page certain discrepancies relating to the night of May third 2007. These discrepancies, or McCann sound bites if you will, are fundamental, nay, they are the cornerstone for the McCann's claim that Madeleine was a victim of stranger abduction.
That this case has progressed to the point it has without these inconsistencies and disparities being addressed, I find not only staggering, but scandalous. That such conflicting and contradictory statements made by the parents have never been investigated by any law enforcement agency in this country, is, as I say, not only scandalous, but shameful. And please, don't give me it's jurisdiction issue.
That parents, in a case of a three year old girl seemingly disappearing off the face of the earth, can make such contradictory statements with impunity, says much for the state of this Nation, it's law enforcement, and not least it's Government.
It matters not that books are written, that documentaries are made, or whatever tripe the press wishes to print in their obsession to sanctify this loathsome pair , it matters not because it is all worthless, it is all utterly without worth until these fundamental questions are answered. more
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The latest timeline, IMHO goes like this
9.15 ish McCann checks
9.25 Tanner checks THINKS she see's someone at the top of the road, back to bundleman
9.40 Oldfield checks ALL OK
10.00 Mrs McCann, checks M's gone
A man seen carrying a child by the Smith family, therefore did the snatch AFTER Oldfield's check.
No mystery. Interesting change in dynamics to the whole case, since it clears the ambiguities of six years.
Add a bit of flavour & look for earlier suspects, for example when Madeleine was collecting the balls, or getting an icecream, or walking down to the beach - whatever it will be.
What a strange sense of fulfilment, that this is how it could have happened. So why 6 years of the McCanns, their supporters and teams of PIs kept on about the Tanner sighting, totally ignoring their saviour of the moment the Smith family.
Followed the case for so many years, I think now I've had enough.
Is this really about what is going on in Portugal, the Lisbon libel hearing.
And why, if the MET are so close to solving the case, do the broadcast it to the world and yet again put Madeleine's life at risk.
But then SHOUTING the loudest has always been the MO of this case from the start.
And will this really gain friends and influence the people of Portugal and the Portuguese Authorities.
@ Anon 14 October 2013 07:37
So why 6 years of the McCanns, their supporters and teams of PIs kept on about the Tanner sighting, totally ignoring their saviour of the moment the Smith family.
The Smith sighting:
http://www.justpamalam.co.uk/mpjf//PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
He [Martin Smith] states that the individual carried the child in his arms, with her head laying on the individual's left shoulder, that being to the right of the deponent.
She [Aoife Smith] did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual. She appeared to be sleeping. Her arms were suspended along her body and were not around the individual's neck.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/madeleine-was-here
This programme is not currently on 4oD,
but it is here available to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY
from 6:36: watch a man carrying a child horizontally across his arms.
http://bit.ly/1a2Tpsz
61. And yet the McCann's deliberately altered the Smith sighting carrying style so as to match that of the Tanner sighting, during the only ever significant mention of the sighting, in a McCann made reconstruction aired only a few days after Amaral's (in which he included the Smith sighting)
http://twitpic.com/74jnhg
https://twitter.com/JillyCL/status/389725675684257792
Tapas Nine, not so into each other after all.
Good day Maren.
I have just replied to that tweet.
As for the rest of it?
Apart from Jane under the bus.
But doesn't the whole shebang, bring a new meaning to surreal?
"Regarding the description of the individual who carried the child he [Martin Smith] states that: he was Caucasian, around 175 to 180m in height. He appeared to be about 35/40 years old. He had an average build, a bit on the thin side. His hair was short, in a basic male cut, brown in colour. He cannot state if it was dark or lighter in tone. He did not wear glasses and had no beard or moustache. He did not notice any other relevant details partly due to the fact that the lighting was not very good."
"States that it is not possible for him to recognise the individual in person or by photograph."
http://www.justpamalam.co.uk/mpjf//PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
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It makes sense that e-fit would resemble Gerry #McCann as was Smith family description. Martin Smith 60-80% certain was Gerry.
http://bit.ly/17qCKMN
Yes. Exactly, a deliberately intentional suggestion, because 60-80% certain is not 100% certain.
Such a wonderfully effective distraction from the man’s carrying style.
The McCanns deliberately altered the Smith sighting carrying style so as to match that of the Tanner sighting, during the only ever significant mention of the sighting, in a McCann made reconstruction (poor Emma Loach) aired only a few days after Amaral's (in which he included the Smith sighting).
That irrefutable evidence is in the public domain now. So, the Tanner sighting should be dismissed. Let’s face the real "abductor".
At least Jane Tanner is finally able to focus on her everyday life (still five "friends" to go, Dianne Webster excluded).
That aside, young children are growing up, even Tapas Six ones.
Loyalty has its limits.
That just about sums it up.
Such a wonderfully effective distraction from the man’s carrying style.
Oh yes.
Loyalty has its limits
Yes yes.
A fragment from JB's excellent article (in English).
Mathew Oldfield, the most malleable of the group ("get down to reception and see what’s happening with the police!") and Jane Tanner, the most vulnerable, become the foundations of the fairy story. As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.
http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.de/2013/10/light-and-dark.html
I have made this comment on another blog:justice and truth isn't coming through Deadwood, Crimewash, or Slimewatch, but from a family member from the tapas ranks. Those poor poor children. But grow they will .....
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/crimewatch-aired-in-uk-ireland-netherlands-germany-but-why-not-portugal/29659
Crimewatch aired in UK, Ireland, Netherlands, Germany, but why not Portugal?
No need for entertainment. The Portuguese are well-informed.
Additional information.
From book Madeleine by Kate McCann.
"The police did not appear to feel that Jane’s sighting in Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva and the man and child reported by the Irish holidaymakers in Rua da Escola Primaria were related. They seem to have concluded that these were in all likelihood two different men carrying two different children (if, they implied, these two men actually existed at all). The only reason for their skepticism appeared to be an unexplained time lapse between the two sightings. They didn’t dovetail perfectly. To me, the similarities seem far more significant than any discrepancy in timing".
"(…remember – Jane’s description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements), I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts.
Carrying style Kate? Pyjamas Kate?
The McCann's deliberately altered the Smith sighting carrying style so as to match that of the Tanner sighting, during the only ever significant mention of the sighting, in a McCann made reconstruction aired only a few days after Amaral's (in which he included the Smith sighting).
McCann documentary, Smith sighting 6:36 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY
But, surprise,
six years later,
the individual saviours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok
At the 23:40 mark:
Watch a man carrying a child in a vertical position.
And at the 23:56 mark: white pyjamas, long sleeved top.
Whitewash.
Free information for the Monitor regarding the pyjamas.
It is NOT this one (as recently revealed):
http://dailym.ai/19QQzUA
It is also NOT this one: http://bit.ly/H5feiy
(As revealed 7 May 2011 http://dailym.ai/iWtyc1)
In extracts printed by The Sun, she [Kate McCann] tells of how windy it was, and says she kept imagining how cold Madeleine would be in her short-sleeved Eeyore pyjamas, and wishing she’d had her warmer Barbie pyjamas on.
It is this one: http://bit.ly/1ewdMkh
Just to inform you.
I gave them both a few screenshots, (see Arab News) but both were too dark to use in making a point.
But I take your point wholeheartedly. Vertical, horizontal, long sleeves, short sleeves.
I cannot help but wonder, if these program makers, know just how much they are being manipulated?
Do they care?
Doubt it.
Questionable indeed, but the directors do care. They are manipulators after all.
It’s all in the details.
Are you talking official directors, or the unofficial ones, the ones we have become accustomed to?
Both.
@21 October 2013 12:03
regarding the pyjamas
The telephone rang at around 11pm [03 May] at Trish Cameron's home near Glasgow. She picked it up to hear the voice of her younger brother. "He was distraught, breaking his heart," Mrs Cameron said. "He said: 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted.'"
Hundreds of miles away in Portugal's western Algarve Gerald McCann, whose job as a heart surgeon demands a calm, steady nerve, had lost any semblance of control and was crying down the telephone to his older sister. Just an hour earlier he and his wife Kate had returned to their ground floor apartment in the Ocean Club holiday resort to find that three-year-old Madeleine, the little girl they had left asleep in her white pyjamas, had disappeared.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/may/05/world.sandralaville#article_continue
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Jill Renwick, a family friend, told GMTV at 7:45am, on the morning of 04 May, that the distraught parents were certain that Madeleine had been abducted. "They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour."
Speaking to the BBC later, Ms Renwick said the McCanns, who had been holidaying with three other British families, had felt let down by police in Portugal. "I spoke to them this morning and they said the police had done nothing overnight and they felt as if they'd been left on their own. They just don't know where to turn."
Ms Renwick described the missing girl as a "very pretty, very blonde three-year-old". Madeline was said to have been wearing white pyjamas when she went missing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/04/markoliver
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BBC news
Kevin Bakhurst
10 May 2007
We passed on the accurate details of Madeleine's pyjamas, at the family's request, correcting the police's initial description.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/05/avoiding_intrusion.html
The police's initial description???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY
from 6:36: watch a man carrying a child horizontally across his arms.
http://bit.ly/1a2Tpsz
And yet the McCanns deliberately altered the Smith sighting carrying style so as to match that of the Tanner sighting, during the only ever significant mention of the sighting, in a McCann made reconstruction aired only a few days after Amaral's (in which he included the Smith sighting).
What about the pyjamas style? Just wondering.
In addition.
From rogatory interview - Jane Tanner
4078 Yes. I think the point they’re trying to make is that you had no knowledge of what Madeleine was supposed to have been wearing when you gave that description?
Jane Tanner: No I think, no because when, I wasn’t there at the table when Kate gave a you know, I think Kate gave everybody else, when she came, you know when everyone was looking for her, they had a description of what to look for but I wasn’t, I was in the room at that point so no I definitely didn’t know what she’d, and I’d never seen her in pyjamas, I’ve never seen Madeleine in pyjamas at home and or anywhere so.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id222.html
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From rogatory interview - David Payne.
David Payne: And really didn’t think twice about it at the time and that’s why it wasn’t mentioned then. But she [Jane Tanner] definitely mentioned it to me you know after Madeleine had been abducted and you know on the, the following day before she’d actually mentioned it to Kate and there was a, a newspaper report, I think it was in the Telegraph err certainly one of the newspapers anyway, that was sort of describing err Madeleine’s pyjamas and, and err Jane said that’s not right, how did they get that, well she said you know, that in, I don’t know how they get that information anyway, my recollections were this was what she was wearing and described it you know differently you know to what the, the, the press had, and that was before she’d even seen Kate so you know, the strength of that argument is just absolutely overwhelming, you know given the time frame err you know of when Madeleine must have gone, gone, that you know and for her [Jane Tanner] to have described in detail the pull ups at the bottom of the pyjamas err you know the colours, you know and the timing is just, you know well, so.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id251.html
How did they [the newspapers] get that information, the describing of Madeleine’s pyjamas before Jane had mentioned it to Kate.
From Trish Cameron and Jill Renwick (via Kate) perhaps?
Matthew Oldfield, the most malleable of the group ("get down to reception and see what’s happening with the police!") and Jane Tanner, the most vulnerable, become the foundations of the fairy story. As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.
http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.de/2013/10/light-and-dark.html
John McCann and the pyjamas.
May 15, 2007
As the family waited fearfully for news, they faced the agonising reality of trying to explain to their toddler twins why their big sister was no longer there.
"That was terrible for them," says John McCann, Mr McCann's elder brother, who has also travelled to Portugal to help search for his niece.
"Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: 'Maddy's jammies. Where is Maddy?' But she is too young to understand. And how do you explain?
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/
2007/05/14/1178995077373.html?page=
3
Yes a whitewash, "higher" interests.
Have read. Love to you and to your mother. Maren
Curtains.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/public-ministry-reopens-investigation.html
Matthew Oldfield, the most malleable of the group ("get down to reception and see what’s happening with the police!") and Jane Tanner, the most vulnerable, become the foundations of the fairy story. As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.
http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.de/2013/10/light-and-dark.html
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from rogatory Interviews - Matthew Oldfield
(...)everybody was just running around like sort of headless chickens, so I remember saying, you know, we need a plan, I mean, I don't know why I said that but I think I'd just read too many novels, because everybody just seemed to just sort of run, there was sort of no organisation, you know, and it was obviously important that we, you know, we did something constructive rather than just running around looking in the hedgerows if, you know, what we, because we all went through this, you know, is she really gone, surely she must have just sort of wandered off and we’re just going to find her and she's going to be there, but, you know, she's like a four year old child and, you know, she, I mean, all the doors were shut, she wasn't really going to run off and then Jane said, the shutters up, and, you know, we sort of scarpered and Dave and Russell were just running off sort of shouting, so Fiona, I think, asked me to go and phone the Police, so I actually went down the route to where she would have gone for Nursery drop off, which his back to the, to the main reception essentially, so I went down that route looking for her at that time and I asked the reception to phone the Police, and that must have been about five past, it's difficult to know what time it was at that time, but maybe about ten past ten, five past ten, ten past ten".
(...)And I think what the reception probably did was ring the MARK WARNER people and say, there's somebody that's saying there's a child missing, because by that time there were lots of MARK WARNER people around, erm, and they were very good, they, you know, they obviously, you know, got there and that might have been the impetus that got them to ring the Police, if, because I understand that there is some discrepancy about when we thought we'd called the Police and when the Police were actually called and that might be that they went on the, on that route first and then went, I think it's Stuart HILL or, well the Manager, the sort of Manager got involved, that might have been when it occurred. Erm, so there was plenty of running around through the back streets and back to the apartment and then, you know, where's the, where are the Police, where are the Police, erm, and so went back down to the reception, this would have been about thirty minutes or so later, erm, back to reception, erm, and at that point, Gerry had come down as well, erm, and, erm, you know, was obviously, you know, sort of intermittently sort of calm and then completely, you know, hysterically upset (...)
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id219.html
Where did Gerry McCann come from?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
RECORD OF TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW Police Exhibit No IM23A
David PAYNE
00:41:00 1485 "Okay, so now what I'm gonna try and ask you to recollect, what everybody was wearing.'
Reply "I'm afraid that is, you know I'm, I cannot recall at all. I know that's, you'd think that'd be an obvious thing to remember, I cannot remember. As I say the, from the children point of view predominantly I can remember the, you know, white, but I couldn't say exactly what they were wearing. Err''
(PART TWO)
(...)I was you know going to Kate's about six thirty, err and I went into their apartment through the patio doors. The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas, you know they looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content and I said to Kate, you know it's a bit early for the you know, for the three of them to be going to bed, she said ah they've had such a great time, they're really tired and you know err so I say, you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour, but you know just to reinforce they were just so happy, you know seeing you know obviously Gerry wasn't there but they were just all, just so at peace and you know they looked like a family who'd had such a fantastic time and err yeah then I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he'd, he'd played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me, Russell and err Matt and err Dan who was the, the you know the tennis coach from Mark Warner.
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Predominantly white. Like this one David Payne?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460669/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapping-innocent-British-father-mistaken-key-suspect.html
The girl seen at 9.15pm wore distinctive pyjamas and the prime suspect also brought these to police to prove his innocence.
For the convenience, there is white linen next to the 9:15pm pyjamas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY
From the 1:00 mark.
1:35 However, Jane and Gerry remember the scene differently
Well, it was Gerry McCann’s sighting after all, wasn’t it.
4:30 Matthew Oldfield’s turn
Watching this scene – if you didn’t know any better – you might wonder which one of the two men (Gerry or Matthew) is Madeleine’s father.
Mathew Oldfield, the most malleable of the group ("get down to reception and see what’s happening with the police!") and Jane Tanner, the most vulnerable, become the foundations of the fairy story. As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.
http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.de/2013/10/light-and-dark.html
Kate McCann in book Madeleine:
(…remember – Jane’s description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements), I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts.
Really?
Jane Tanner’s 9:15pm pyjamas here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460669/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapping-innocent-British-father-mistaken-key-suspect.html
The girl seen at 9.15pm wore distinctive pyjamas and the prime suspect also brought these to police to prove his innocence.
Aoife Smith’s pyjamas here:
http://www.justpamalam.co.uk/mpjf//PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
From witness testimony Aoife Smith.
She was wearing light trousers, white or light pink, that may have been pyjamas. She does not remember if they were patterned as it was dark. The material was lightweight/thin and could have been cotton.
She also had a light top, with long sleeves. She did not see it well because the individual had his arms around the child. She is not sure if the child's top was the same colour as her trousers, saying only that it was very light. The fabric was the same as the trousers.
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Jane’s description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements) - Kate McCann
Well spotted Kate.
To me, the similarities seem far more significant than any discrepancy in timing.
That goes without saying.
I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts. - Kate McCann
Yes, I am staggered, too.
As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.
Since Jane Tanner’s sighting is officially dismissed (it was a long time ago, but timing tha knows), we are depended on the Smith sighting that we can no longer ignore.
Just like the public, the directors have read the files. So, to make the new documentary somewhat believable they corrected Smith man’s carrying style and included Aoife Smith’s pyjamas sighting.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok
At the 23:56 mark: white pyjamas, long-sleeved top.
Just a few seconds of course.
The focus should be on the two e-fits of one "abductor" that Martin Smith could not recognise by photograph, because Martin Smith recognised Gerry McCann’s carrying style.
Furthermore, we have paedophile-gangs, burglars taking children instead of "something valuable", bogus charity collectors, suspicious German or Dutch speaking (difficult to distinguish for the layman) fair haired men, Roma gypsy abductions all around the world, and god knows what else.
As for the girl in BBC Crimewatch, don’t waste your time. She can’t be Madeleine, because...
http://bit.ly/1ewdMkh
Unless...
the McCanns also altered Madeleine’s pyjamas style so as to match that of the Jane Tanner sighting (floral print pyjamas bottom and some imagination), just like they altered the Smith sighting carrying style in the McCann made reconstruction "Madeleine was here", so as to match that of the Tanner sighting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY
(from 6:36: watch a man carrying a child horizontally across his arms)
Meanwhile: Madeleine McCann inquiry reopened by Portuguese police.
Hello Chuck, I left a couple of OT links in the dump.
All noted, thanks Maren.
@25 October 2013 14:17
Yes, where did Gerry McCann come from?
In 'Madeleine' by Kate McCann:
Just after ten past ten, Gerry asked Matt to run to the Ocean Club's twenty-four-hour reception to get the staff to call the police
In witness statement Matthew Oldfield:
Fiona, I think, asked me to go and phone the Police
In 'Madeleine' by Kate McCann:
At 10.35pm the police had still not arrived, so Gerry asked Matt if he would go back to the twenty-four-hour reception and find out what was happening.
In witness statement Matthew Oldfield:
there was plenty of running around through the back streets and back to the apartment and then, you know, where's the, where are the Police, where are the Police, erm, and so went back down to the reception, this would have been about thirty minutes or so later, erm, back to reception, erm, and at that point, Gerry had come down as well
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The whole black comedy nightmare process can be seen in the files. It is impossible for them to rewrite their parts. Gerry and Kate McCann, known and notorious liars, now don’t even have the fig-leaf of the Tanner story to give them at least the possibility of veracity and are left horribly exposed, as their faces demonstrate.
http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.de/2013/10/light-and-dark.html
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http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/
@25 November 2013 09:43
In 'Madeleine' by Kate McCann:
Just after ten past ten, Gerry asked Matt to run to the Ocean Club's twenty-four-hour reception to get the staff to call the police.
From Rogatory interview Fiona Payne
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
And by the time I got back everyone else had done their loop and at that point then no-one had seen Madeleine. Erm, I [Fiona Payne] remember saying to Matt at that point 'You go down to main reception and phone the Police'.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-anyone-saying-were-2965383
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/editors-picks/madeleine-mccann-bungling-police-prime-2965027
A spokesman for the McCann’s last night declined to comment saying it is "a matter for Operation Grange."
Of course it is. Matter of law, whitewash.
In contrast to matter of fact.
http://bit.ly/1k38d30
PJ Files: Timeline for 03/04 May 2007
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id229.html
Between approximately a quarter past nine and half past nine we left the Tapas bar to go home, we walked across the MW reception area, crossed the road and a semi circular path to return to the apartment, were we put the children to bed and a short while later did the same ourselves. I do not remember seeing or hearing anyone during our return to the apartment. When I crossed the road outside the MW reception I remember there were cars parked, I remember taking some time to see if I could cross the road because there were cars parked to my left and I [Stephen Carpenter] was carrying I****. They were about six metres away from me and I calculate that some (inaudible) metres from the back of Gerry's apartment, I do not remember anything about these cars, it was normal for cars to be parked there and in the morning they were no longer there. My wife mentioned on the following day that she vaguely remembered someone calling "Madeleine, Madeleine", this was after we had crossed the road from the MW reception and before entering our apartment. She does not remember where the sound came from or whether it was in an urgent tone, not paying any more attention to it and only remembered the following day when we heard about Madeleine's disappearance".
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_INFORMATION.htm
"Tanner" man?
Between approximately a quarter past nine and half past nine.
I [Stephen Carpenter] was carrying I****
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm
http://bit.ly/1kpOc6I
I**** Carpenter
(line 12)
Didn't I read somewhere that he was travelling in the wrong direction to be Tannerman?
I only glimpsed at it last night, it being far too long to read at that hour, but I believe the transcript of a recent Portuguese documentary is quite interesting. (Jill Havern forum) I shall read it later.
Have to go and do a bit of DIY now, later then.
Yes I read that too. The innocent British father was travelling in the wrong direction. However, Jane and Gerry remember the scene differently.
http://zizipresscuts.wordpress.com/
This programme (jump to translation) was broadcast by Portuguese CMTV on 16 November 2013 – sensibly a month after the much publicized (and criticized) BBC “Crimewatch” production about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann .
The BBC “Crimewatch” edition transmitted on the 14 October 2013, featured the missing child’s parents and Andrew Redwood, the senior detective from Scotland Yard (i.e. London Metropolitan Police) ordered by David Cameron to review (sic) the original investigation of the Polícia Judiciária (PJ) – the Portuguese nationwide, crime specialist force.
CMTV independent programme was entitled: “The Maddie Case”: A Reconstruction of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann”. This more objective and factual crime scene investigation, counted with the participation of Dr. Gonçalo Amaral – the former PJ senior detective who coördinated the initial phase of the investigation, and the Portuguese university professor and criminologist, Francisco Moita Flores.
Zizi Duarte and Paula Levy-Smith
@8 January 2014 10:27
Perhaps Tanner's "Crecheman" should read "Tapasman".
@8 January 2014 10:27
http://bit.ly/1jFL99x
In a nutshell
Our appeal last year was very successful and we had over 5,000 calls which generated new information for us and which we continue to investigate. - Andy Redwood
http://www.met.police.uk/madeleine-mccann-appeal/
Playing for time.
(...)Even Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, the senior British investigating officer, has conceded she may have died in the apartment. Portuguese detectives and prosecutors, as well as specialist British investigators and a British police dog handler, came to that conclusion years ago.
http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-case-in-a-right-old-muddle
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